If you think you have ever felt true fear, you havent tried Gentoo yet

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      Noob here what is the difference?

      also why would an extra but the same character y make a difference? Is that common in the arch linux ecosystem?

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        The y argument tells pacman to update the package list. This is so your computer is downloading the new packages instead of old ones from last time you updated it. The second y tells it to delete the old package list and download it from scratch. This is useful if pacman isn’t working correctly. Maybe the files got corrupted. But it wastes more resources for the repo so it is not recommended as a default.

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          Oh wow, I have always thought the y stands for “yes to any questions” turns out it has a --noconfirm

          Should have read the man page…

          -y, --refresh
                     Download a fresh copy of the master package databases (repo.db) from the server(s)
                     defined in pacman.conf(5). This should typically be used each time you use
                     --sysupgrade or -u. Passing two --refresh or -y flags will force a refresh of all
                     package databases, even if they appear to be up-to-date.
          
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      Also hard to relate. Got my Gentoo server running full auto updates every morning and then send an ntfy alert on success or failure. Haven’t seen a failed update in so long (other than the occasional package that had a bad build or something once in a while).

      Back when I was fresh in the Gentoo and Linux world (Gentoo is where I started) and updating once a month, I can definitely say I ran into issues… dunno if it’s that big of an issue these days though.

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    Not sure if my memory is failing already but I no longer see those “Update portage before anything else” messages.

    When something tries to overwrite stuff in /etc and you have to etc-update your shit… that’s when things get real

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      Really hate those few packages that don’t give a shit whether or not you’ve already configured it or not…

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      Yes. Once I actually locked myself out of using sudo and then forgot my root password because I updated the stuff without looking at the content of those files

      I just had one of those portage update messages btw, so they are for sure still a thing

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    Meh, I used Gentoo in its literal first release off a DVD with only printed instructions for a stage one build on an old Pentium II. No internet or anything to fall back on. Learnt a hell of a lot (like don’t select Firefox and Open Office and do an emerge world as your first package step after the initial boot because it took literally a week to compile with no indication when it would be done). Definitely have a soft spot for Larry the Cow but after running that setup for a couple of years I feel I’ve taken what I needed from Gentoo.

    Would recommend it to anyone who wants to dig in and really learn what makes their system tick, but not as a daily driver. I feel for me Arch hits the sweet spot, but was happy with Debian/Ubuntu too (at least until Ubuntu went to shit with snaps).

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    Isn’t using a rolling distro, without updating it at least every couple of days (or even every single day) a big security risk?

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      There is glsa-check for you.

      I daily-drive Gentoo on my main rig. A binary-repository exists now. You can still decide where you want different use-flag settings and save a lot compile time.

      Only for machines I don’t actively use (servers) or rarely use, I have Debian stable installed.

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      Depends on what you have installed and your needs. It’s a matter of understanding your system and knowing how to manage it.