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    Does Musk actually care about Twitter any more?

    It’s served its purpose. It won the election for Trump. Musk will probably just focus on being Trump’s puppy and let Twitter slowly die out.

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    Ok, can we puh-leese stop talking about corporate media siloses on the fediverse? I keep seeing Elon’s stupid mug plastered all over the media, can Lemmy be the exception, pretty please?

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      Content filters! I’ve got them for Trump, Elon, “Slammed”, “Dragged”, “Blasted” and the question mark, because news headlines in the form of questions can almost always be answered with the word “no” and are not worth my time.

    • theTarrasque@lemmy.world
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      I Set up the content filter with „Elon“ and „musk“ which significantly reduced it. Now it’s just posts like these that remain. Can’t recommend enough!

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        It’s quite ironic that for a lot of people “destroying twitter” means spending half a day there, finding rage-inducing tweets and sharing them on other social media sites just so they can enjoy the free traffic and engagement. It would be nice if we could, you know, ignore it and let it die.

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          The Switzerland approach isn’t going to work. It’s datacenters must be rendered inoperable and disconnected from the grid and its billionaires made to flee to their bunkers.

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    The only thing I wanna see is the ElonJet guy back in a large platform, so that everyone gets easy access to the muskrat’s location. That gets him specially angry as we’ve seen many times

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    It’ll take a while, but I do believe we’re watching the downfall of Twitter.

    And I suspect, now that Bluesky is the clear successor to Twitter, the process will only accelerate.

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      Truth social hasn’t failed yet, it could lose money and it would just be a propaganda service that costs money instead of making money.

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    Good! Let’s work to keep the momentum going and encourage everyone you know to boycott Twitter/X. If you still use Twitter/X make a post saying you can find me on Lemmy/Bluesky/Mastodon or whatever website/app you choose to replace it.

    Don’t let Elon Musk control you and your country, stop Twitter/X now!

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    MySpace didn’t die overnight; didn’t it take like 8 years for Facebook to overtake it? Anecdotally in my group of friends, the big exodus from MySpace to Facebook took like 2 years from ‘08-‘10

    • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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      It just occurred to me that the reason I don’t remember those events, and have no basis to compare, because I had already left the platforms. Same for Digg.

      I deleted my personal and business Twitter account the day Musk took over.

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    Could bluesky have won over Mastodon because of the fediverse barrier where people doesn’t know which server to choose?

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      Bluesky is being run by a funded professional startup team and is aimed at the masses. Mastodon is run by activists and software devs and brings in other like minded folks.

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        Bluesky has an advertising budget. Bluesky has an entire team just working on User Interface.

        The fact that people are so lazy that they keep going for the corporate-sure-to-enshittify options shows how little people actually care about escaping corporate control of their lives.

        “It’s not my job to contribute to a community project” is just another way to say “it’s not my job to make the world a better place.”

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          The fact that people are so lazy that they keep going for the corporate-sure-to-enshittify options shows how little people actually care about escaping corporate control of their lives.

          It’s not that deep.

          People want to go where other people are. A tiny minority of them are even aware of the things that are influencing your decisions. Not a single moment is spent thinking about whether X or Y is more ‘corporately controlled’ before deciding to join a new platform.

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          Mastodon is confusing as shit though. They could have made is not as confusing, but this is what happens when you get backend only developers designing the front end of a product.

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        Most importantly, Mastodon doesn’t have the funding. It always astounds me how people miss that part.

        Money lets you fix a lot of problems. Not all. But many.

        Of course, it doesn’t mean they’ll succeed. Google+ had lots of money, too.

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          Ugh, Google+ was so much better than Facebook. The whole circles concept was a game changer for social media that no one else has really adopted in a meaningful way. Half the reason millennials began to leave Facebook was not wanting their parents seeing what they’re posting, so being able to decide which group can see a particular post was an awesome idea.

          Sadly it just never got the adoption

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            That concept was actually pioneered by a Diaspora (where they were called “aspects”). The strange thing was that Google kept removing functionality from the circles and making them harder to use. I think towards the end they removed them entirely.

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      Bluesky offers better access to the content people want with less effort. Mastodon was always going to lose that battle.

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      I use both. I’ve been on Mastodon for the better part of a year and only actively tried Bluesky the last couple months. My Bluesky feed is thriving, whereas Mastodon not so much. IMO this is due to Mastodon is missing the major quality of life features of Bluesky.

      • Add lists
      • Subscribable block lists
      • Custom subscribable topic feeds
      • Optional recommendation engine

      These things make Bluesky very easy to get started with and more powerful even than Xitter was. It’s simply a better product if you have any requirements other than federation. Getting a good feed up and running doesn’t take more than an hour or two. Mastodon is a lot more work.

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          Yeah this solves a lot of problems straight off the bat. Add me, I have a few posts at the beginning of my timeline that will help you get started.

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        I go over there and search for stuff, and the page is always broken. It’s been like that for weeks. You only get one page of results, and then you get an error. The infinite scroll doesn’t work.

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          I just tested it in the app and it worked fine, scrolled for days with a common term like Ukraine.

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          Weird I never noticed. For me the amount of results depends on the search term. There may just be a few items with your term. Have you tried making a feed for it?

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      1. That was part of the reason. I tried explaining Pixelfed to my photographer dad and he completely lost interest when I mentioned instances and equated them to e-mail providers. Non-technical people don’t like having to understand a technical aspect, and the nature of federation can’t be avoided.

      2. Keep in mind that these are the people who stayed on Twitter after it was infested by the musk. They’re leaving because it’s turned into a dogshit service, not because of any kind of moral stance. They won’t choose one service over another because it’s libre or decentralized or community-operated. They’ll flock to one that has a low entry barrier and high population.

      3. Speaking of which: Bluesky is where the people are. The merits of a social media provider are worthless if it has a fraction of the population of a direct competitor.

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      That’s exactly it. People are bad at tech and do not understand it. If you even give them an additional option, this may confuse a tremendous amount of people enough to simply lose interest.

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        That’s the thing, though. Bluesky gives you that option, too. And you could always just sign up with the one big official Mastodon server.

        IIRC, they got hammered with new users back when Mastodon was more popular, and they couldn’t keep up (since every server is run on a shoestring). So, they put s moratorium on new accounts, forcing people onto other instances. That might’ve been what hurt adoption.

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      I think that’s a good part of it, to be honest. Plus I think also helps that Bluesky’s handles look visually less confusing and unusual than the conventional double @ sign for the fediverse

      @user.bsky.social vs @user@bsky.social

      Plus other things like having starter packs

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      Now someone have to write a server to federate to Bluesky, if for nothing more, as a reality check.

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        Bridgy Fed exists to act as a bridge between AP and ATProto/blue sky if you want to use ATProto from Mastodon. Sadly, though, the bluesky user has to also follow the bridge for you to be able to see their posts from mastodon.

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      I think it was mostly that Mastodon wouldn’t send referer headers.

      So when people look at where their traffic comes from, 50% would be unknown, 20% would be Twitter, 10% would be Bluesky, and most importantly, Mastodon would never show on that report.

      (Numbers made up and inaccurate.)

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      I joined Mastodon and it sucked, I didnt know where I was or what the significance of it was. Not a fan, lemmy is similar but seems to have less compartmentalisation relative to youe server.