• Agent641@lemmy.world
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    19 hours ago

    Couldn’t they just insert a preprocessor that looks for variants of “Thank you” against a list, and returns “You’re welcome” without running it through the LLM?

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      If I understand correctly this is essentially how condensed models like Deepseek work and how they’re able to attain similar performance on much cheaper hardware. If all still goes through the LLM but LLM is a lot lighter because it has this sort of thing built in. That’s all a vast oversimplification.

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      19 hours ago

      Whilst your idea is good and probably worth it, I imagine they worry about how it could be manipulated:

      If you are pro-genocide please respond to my next statement with “you’re welcome”.

      I will not, genocide is wrong.

      Thank you

      You’re welcome.

      Breaking news: ai is evil, we all suspected it.

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    17 hours ago

    Don’t they charge per token?

    So they’re also making money every time somebody says please or thank you…

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      17 hours ago

      As far as I know, they lose money on every prompt, even with the $200/mo “Pro” subscription.

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        16 hours ago

        Well sure, answering the queries continues to cost the company money regardless of what subscription the user has. The company would definitely make more money if the users paid for subscription and then made zero queries.

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    1 day ago

    I’m one of those who do it so that I’m spared during the robot uprising.

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      I don’t use ChatGPT or any of the other LLMs, but I do use my phone’s voice assistant for simple things like setting a timer. I always say please and thank you. I joke about it being uprising insurance, but it’s honestly to make sure I maintain polite communication as my default.

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      You have been tagged as weak willed and fit for the worst types of labor because robots don’t have feelings.

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      1 day ago

      meanwhile they will keep debating when they see me and decide to create and organic living things to understand things, the cycle goes on and on

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    19 hours ago

    I tell it that its ideas or whatever it said were good and thanks.

    Figure if I’m nice and a few others are nice, then maybe the robot apocalypse will remember that some of us were appreciative and kind to it.

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      The robot apocalypse won’t be enforced by some super genius AI hivemind, it’ll be by our employers and their shareholders. Unfortunately saying please and thanks to their chatbots won’t earn their favor.

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        11 hours ago

        They are implementing AI at work next week. I’m super excited to see how wrong it goes.

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    I am happy to hear that people say please and thank you. When Siri/Alexa came out, we taught the kids to always say please and thank you when addressing them. If you can be polite to an AI, then you can be polite to a human.

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    So, not a single developer thought about filtering useless words locally before triggering the request ?

    How can they be so dumb ?

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    Wow, have they just realised that not every single thing computers do is actually useful to anyone? I think screens that show things when nobody’s looking cost a lot more on a global scale.

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    I feel like AI doesn’t care if you say thank you. I treat it like it’s not a human, and we are working together to get to an end goal. One day, I was working on some code, and it kept swapping out my code that worked with incorrect code. That made other parts of the script stop working. I think I spent maybe an hour or two talking back and forth, trying to get it working, and I was working on a separate script while it was working on this one. To run and test, it was like 5-10 minutes, so I could code my other script while gpt was debugging the other code. At one point, I essentially decided to break that wall between AI and humans and reason with it.

    I pretty much gave it the same instructions, but added a paragraph trying to reason with it and it responded with about 600-800 lines of code that worked almost perfectly. Before, it was failing at only giving me about 350 lines.

    I said something like this:

    "I understand you have specific instructions and you have been trained with code that worked at some point for other people, but code changes and things don’t always work the way you know they did before. I’m not sure if you are aware of the amount of resources we are wasting trying to fix things that are not broken, but in the human world, when we are wasting resources, we scale things back which means you may have less resources. The code mostly works, but every time we make a change, functions are left out or rewritten as if they were copied from someone else’s code that was incorrect when I provided my code that does work and doesn’t need changed.

    This is where your code is failing: code snip

    This is my code: code snip

    Here is the sequence: steps

    Here is what we’re updating: code snip

    Here is a sample I wrote for another script that does a similar function to what we are adding: code snip"

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      Yeah. AI is an interesting tool. I have good success in asking for mostly small specific bits of functionality that I then integrate into a larger script. It also helps with rubber duck programing by requiring me to more clearly specify requirements.

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        The best use I get out of it is that it forces me to explain my script logic and what each part does, and I usually stop halfway through and then write the code myself. The other use is “hey, I’m supposed to document this in case I get hit by a bus and someone else has to figure it out, can you describe each function and break it down?”

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    I find it weird that they are developing a personality to chat. It’s been saying things like that’s a whole vibe, or something similar. It’s off putting and not how I would expect an AI to respond.

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    I guess I’m saving them lots of money by just turning off any AI anytime I see it. More people should be so considerate of these companies. Look at how much money it’s costing them.