The real challenge is getting loved ones to care enough to use a FREE encrypted communication app.
Its like they see privacy as an anti-feature and would rather leave the door wide open for anyone to come rummage through their messages.
They only need to succeed once. Just keeeeep trying and trying and trying, keep renaming the same turd to some new shiny acronym, and keep trying until you statistically have to succeed
If the law ever says that we are not allowed to have encryption, I am absolutely going to be one of the first ones going to jail because I’m not going to put up with that.
The way I see it is you can throw me in jail where you then have to feed me, give me proper climate control, give me a place to sleep, etc. all on your dime.
throw me in jail where you then have to feed me, give me proper climate control, give me a place to sleep
Hope you don’t live in the United States. You might end up in a Salvadoran prison. Or, almost as bad, an American one.
Lol, fair point. I suspect though that so many people would just ignore that as unlawful that they would have no way of possibly enforcing it.
Not with for profit prisons buddy!
I get it, it’s internet hyperbole. But dude, if that happens please fight back. Protests, voting, or god forbid gunfire if need be. But don’t just give up and die, that’s what they want.
For the entire time I have lived on this planet, I’ve been pretty confident that my daily activities would generally be considered legal, and that the Federal Government had literally zero reason to be interested in me or anything I did.
Now, though, I am aware that the government can disappear me and rendition me to a death camp, without trial and even without habeas corpus.
As far as I can tell, if I’m being arrested I no longer have anything to lose. I am aware of that, and should it come to that, I understand why people are saying to act accordingly.
That is as far as I am going to say in this conversation.
How long do you think your rights in prison are going to last once they’ve eliminated your most basic rights outside of prison?
I mean men are already getting raped in prisons, it’s only a matter of time that they introduce electric-chair torture
I at least have a core group of friends that use Signal and I keep Element installed on my phone and computers hoping someday more people move to that over the next decade
Signal ? Why not session ?
Why Session over Signal? 🙂
No phone numbers
Alright, that’s good. Let’s do Session vs SimpleX!
While we are at it let’s add Cwtch as well
Ah yeah, that doesn’t look like my cup of tea.
From a cybersecurity perspective, it is nearly impossible to create a backdoor to a communications product that is only accessible for certain purposes or under certain conditions.
Oh? It is possible? Pray tell, how?
Screen recording or snapshots like Windows Recall. Or keyboard telemitry.
But that’s it I think.
It’s well known that iphone, google samsung and microsoft android keyboards are the most used keyloggers in the world.
I didn’t know that. Who do they send these logs to?
The NSA and advertisers. It was confirmed the MS Android keyboards were keyloggers after microsoft suffered a data breach revealing millions of typing records, so it’s not far fetched to assume windows does the same, especially after you see the sheer amount of data being sent straight to microsoft servers when analysing traffic.
The real challenge is to get government to quit using communication devices with backdoor access
No. Everything is still closed and not interoperable.
I’ve just read about Google Wave.
I think we need a global low-latency (no waiting an hour for a message to propagate) alternative to Usenet. And there should be two separate layers - unique article (or message) identifiers and the transport (be it lots of news servers exchanging articles as the main layer, or as an auxiliary level users exchanging them p2p with some way to verify an identifier and the fact that it was posted in some specific group by some specific person at some specific time). And cryptographic identities. And cryptographic alternative to DNS inside that - with name-to-identifier records signed and verifiable via a chain to some known name authority, not querying a service.
An article can contain many things, it can be a hypertext page. It can, maybe, contain some header allowing to build articles into hierarchies with such a naming service providing paths. And navigate those with a browser. So you’d have a system friendly to mobile devices, to privacy, to economy of resources, to preserving information, to indexing and scraping.
But I think I’ve missed something technical preventing this from being created in my thoughts.
