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From day one of Windows 11, I wrote that Windows 11 felt like an unnecessary replacement for Windows 10. I’ve since changed my mind about that, in part because Microsoft has pivoted toward features like Windows Spotlight and adding AI capabilities like Copilot. MacOS Tahoe looks and feels somewhat like Windows Vista’s Aero Glass design language, but you can’t hold that against them—some of Microsoft’s early Windows efforts were fondly remembered for their UI.
Oh so he doesn’t know what he is talking about. How has 11 gotten better with ‘AI’ or anything else.
It’s got what shareholders crave
From day 1 I’ve been critical of Windows 11, but since then I’ve been told our sponsors don’t like that, so here’s why I’m now all in on 11.
blood of slave labour children from the rare earth metal mines?
Also, they don’t seem to remember that Mac OS X 10.2 used Aqua and glassmorphism in 2002 to match their iMac’ brand new translucent style 5 years before Windows Vista was released (2007).
Well, hopefully their opinion changed from “unnecessary replacement” to “replacement with degraded performance and unnecessary malware.”
Also, everyone hated the UI in Vista at the time.
I hated XP’s FisherPrice UI as well…
Yeah, the classic UI was better (and saved you a couple of pixels of useful screen real estate).
Context I had no idea what was going on until I found this at the bottom of all the comments.
Didn’t Vista get a ton of hate for its new UI?
IIRC, vista got hate because to run it a massive number of users would have to…upgrade…their…hardware.
We’ve seen all the window border/ui design cycles by now. You can have:
- Glassy
- Metallic
- Bubbly
- Flat
- Chiseled stone
They will just rotate every 7 years or so from here on out.
The exact same trends go round and round in web design too (and now apps).
At first things were square (because that was all the technology could do) then in the 2000s CSS exploded and everything went colour gradients and rounded corners, just because people could, then that became old-hat and everything went flat and square again, and then rounded came back (but without so many gradients)
Everything is cyclical.
You’re forgetting Flash. Flash every-fucking-where between 2002-2010 because fuck your CPU and your browser
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Bukakke
Oh, is THAT what that fucking blue splotch everywhere in win11 is? Just an appalling amount of smurf cum, spewing waves of blue jism into the UI at every opportunity?
Ohhhhhhhhhh I get it! They called it Vista like a view, like something you would see out of a window (I am not very smart)
And it’s called Windows 11 to remind us of 9/11, because both are fucking tragedies.
My throat hurts and you made me laugh too hard, I hope you are happy.
I like Windows 11. It’s the only OS currently in existence to actually implement HDR properly, and that’s just sad.
I’ve only just now made the connection because of your post.
Because people don’t seem to remember that Mac OS X 10.2 used Aqua and glassmorphism in 2002 to match their iMac’ brand new translucent style 5 years before Windows Vista was released (2007).
People spreading these memes most likely weren’t born before either release 😀
My back hurts
Get off my
lawnLemmy
Yeah and odd they don’t see the fundamental difference between these, Apple was always “glass widgets on/in a solid rectangle”
Only on Windows were windows windows
I’ve run into gen-z people talking very nostalgically about 2000s UI design trends. They’ve even retroactively dubbed the era as ‘futiger aero’.
I’m a bit older and don’t as fondly remember that era; I remember a lot of excesses like nonsensical reflections and calendar apps with leather textures. The 2013 turn to “flat” design felt quite fresh to me, and I haven’t really gotten tired of it yet.
Hell yeah I love that shit. Gimme unnecessarily textured UIs, frosted glass effects and all the skeuomorphisms you can manage.
There was the unreleased Windows “Blackcomb”, basically prior to Redmond seeing Apple’s Aqua, which was like a bit Windows 2000, a bit ME, flatness, outlines, square corners, and it could’ve been metro.
But resolutions and anti-aliasing were getting (slightly) better, so copy Apple, XP instead gets texture and rounds everything.
Vista was another interesting take, especially weird was the window controls. We are still living with those weird long controls with a margin below, but not above them, a lot of the time, even in flat land Windows 11.
If they are really nostalgic for that, tell them to use react os.
I got tired of it in 2013. While it does work in some places (Android does it reasonably well), I haven’t yet seen a good flat design on the desktop.
Windows 8 and 10 looked garish and hard to read, especially since everything is a rectangle with a one-pixel outline. Is it a button? Is it a text field? Maybe a thick progress bar? Who knows, they all look extremely similar.
While Apple did overdo it in the later big-cat OS X releases, I’ll take a felt-textured widget panel and a calendar bound in leather over an endless sea of hairline rectangles.
