• NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world
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    Citizens United was the final straw in the downfall of America democracy.

    It’s been inevitable since.

    Unless it’s overturned it’s over, and I don’t think they can overturn it.

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      Citizens United

      Corporations have been ‘people’ since the 1886 USSC decision in Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad.

      Yet somehow, unlike most people, they’ve escaped having to go to jail when they commit crimes. I’d call that an unfair advantage.

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    158 families isn’t much to feed 300 million starving people. We need rules on who gets to eat the 0.01%

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    “mainly selfmade wealth”

    That doesn’t exist, let’s stop fucking pretending it does.

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      What they really mean is that they didn’t inherit their immense wealth, which means there was a time in their lives when they weren’t obscenely wealthy.

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        they didn’t inherit their immense wealth

        Except even that doesn’t hold up under close scrutiny. A big component of the market cap of any Fortune 100 company stems from equity and debt held by the generationally wealthy, typically through family funds managed by private equity groups. Amazon and Tesla aren’t worth $1T without the Vanderbilts and the Carnegies and the Adelsons and the Waltons bidding up asset prices. Microsoft doesn’t exist today without Bill Gates’s mom sitting on the IBM board of directors and handing her son the contracts for their 1980s OS. Hell, Berkshire Hathaway is owned by the sons of a Congressman and a federal judge, respectively.

        What’s more, the biggest source of market capital is inevitably government contracts. You can’t tell me that Michael Dell is “independently wealthy” when the bulk of his fortune came via the Texas public school system buying all his company’s computers. Particularly when the governors, legislators, and board members making these decisions are (a) big shareholders of the Dell corporation and (b) legacy scions of wealthy Texas families.

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        I get what they’re getting at, but selfmade has that connotation with it.

        They could say not inherited vs inherited wealth

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      They get to play in a sandbox designed for them. They’re taught how to play in the sandbox, and are given the toys to play (roads, electricity, raw materials for example). We get to be the sand.

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      I made all my money myself. After I graduated from private school with my personal trainer and one on one tutoring and my car I didn’t have to work for and my apartment I didn’t have to pay for I definitely earned my first job myself. I mean, my dad didn’t interview with his good friend from the country club, I DID! Give me the credit I deserve! I am a self made man!

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      Only two super wealthy people come to mind: Oprah and Rowling. Both are bastards (Oprah mostly because of who she endorsed and her increasing lack of connection to the average American).

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          Didn’t think of her. Her parents did literally change their entire lives around her and sacrificed a lot to help her career, but I’d say that though most parents couldn’t afford or have the opportunity to that much, Taylor did build her empire from scratch. She didn’t come from poverty, but wasn’t wealthy from the start.

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    The way to return democracy to the people is to limit the involvement of money. First step is to repeal “Citizens” United, the law that officially sold the US government to corporations and the wealthy under the guise of Freedom (as usual). Second, organizations (including but not limited to corporations) should be outright banned from political compaign contributions. Organizations aren’t citizens. They can’t vote. They shouldn’t be allowed to pour money into elections.

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      It’s going to take the boondocks saints taking these people out one by one like Luigi before anything meaningful happens. They only care about their life, let’s remove it from the equation.

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      It’s not enough to reform campaign finance. We need to destroy the class of people behind this. We need to really wage class war, a class war of annihilation.

      We need a national wealth cap. 1000x median household income. Anything more is taxed at 100%.

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        Let’s start with stopping Billionaires. Once someone gets to $999,999,999 they are awarded a plaque that states something along the lines of “Yay, you won Capitalism (or, frankly, corporatism)” and force them to divest themselves from all companies and stocks etc and live on their ranch in Aspen and live off the almost Billion. Any income that ends up topping their financial worth over a Billion is taxed at 100%

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      People talk about the Harambe timeline, but Citizens United is when the shit started going sideways.

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    In the end, when Trump is certified as the modern day hitler, these families need to be held accountable…. Like the soldiers of the concentration camps.

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    Should figure out where they live and protest on their street instead of burning down the local 7/11.

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      The only access to them is media in the backroom or private event held by rich asking what do you think of protests on main street because you can’t get close to their property and if you can they are probably in another house

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        People snuck into a military airbase and spray painted an RAF plane the other day and got away with it.

        Rich people get complacent. They’re so proud of themselves, so fat and satisfied. They can’t imagine that anyone like us would ever get inside their house, walk their floors, spit in their food.

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    If my math is correct 158 families would be around .00005%. They have no clue what life is like for the average person yet they have so much influence. Gross.