Isn’t the HA cloud dongle able to do both because they’re on the same 2.4 gigahertz or whatever?
The dual stack firmware was deprecated because of issues, I believe.
It’s still marked as experimental, not deprecated, just will likely stay that way. However, it does work with both protocols individually, and the first-use wizard asks you which dedicated firmware you would like to install:
https://support.nabucasa.com/hc/en-us/articles/26124710072861-Enabling-Thread-support
My understanding is that you can replace the ZigBee firmware with Threads firmware if you want.
Yeah, that’s what it looks like to me as well, but since I’m currently using Zigbee devices, I would need to either move them to a new hub, or get a second cloud connect, ZBT1, so that one could be dedicated for threads and the other could be dedicated to Zigbee.
It makes sense. Hopefully it’s more reliable than my Zigbee devices. I constantly have to power cycle devices made by a variety of manufacturers to get them to register again. And I’ve tried more than a few zigbee hubs. Can’t say I’m a fan.
Never had this with ZigBee, one hub lots of different devices. Had to switch hub to USB2 at beginning to reduce interference but after that smooth sailing.
Same, I have about 40 devices on my network and it works great
Check interference with wifi signals wifi on channel 1 and zigbee on channel 25 gives you the most separation. As long as a neighbor doesn’t blast on wifi channel 11.
There is also software compatibility, I found hue to be the most stable for routers. Osram was terrible, recent firmware made it okay.
I’m in literally the middle of nowhere, the next nearest house is 4 miles away and I’m not even connected to the grid. If there’s a wifi signal detectable, it’ll be mine. So I’ve shifted frequencies around trying to get it to stabilize, with little luck. I’ve primarily been using Sonoff, Aqara, Ikea and SMLight, and hubs from each of them.
Honestly, I’ve been migrating to zwave since I don’t seem to have issue with anything I use on that protocol.
Aqara (specially older devices) are known for being temperamental and not playing well with other hubs/devices. If you have each manufacturer on its own hub, make sure they are using separate channels. If everything else fails, 2.4GHz is also used for Bluetooth, microwaves and other, maybe your location has noise on that band,
Z-Wave is using lower bands (800-900mhz depending on location) and certifying the devices better for software compatibility. It’s a fine solution as if it works for you, any limitations are basically theoretical (like the 200 devices).
I’ve been using the OG tradfri devices since 2017/18 and have been very happy. Reliable, cheap to add a lightbulb or switch. Just works. Even integrated with home assistant v easily
finally!! :D
Kind of a lazy question, but are any of these protocols substantial over 802.11, especially if you just use p2p/adhoc/mesh modes?
I haven’t touched mobile networks in a while so I’ve forgotten a lot, but iirc the main concern of mesh networks was efficient routing (which has been solved with some cool algorithms) and power efficiency for devices transmitting (again could have sworn 802.11 and even bluetooth can already achieve this).
Zigby particularly stood out as annoying to me as it includes its own 2.4ghz physical layer stack which uses the same range as WiFI, which is already overcrowded as hell and relies on some CSMA/CA magic to make even the most apartment crowded area of APs function decently.
Zigby particularly stood out as annoying to me as it includes its own 2.4ghz physical layer stack which uses the same range as WiFI, which is already overcrowded as hell and relies on some CSMA/CA magic to make even the most apartment crowded area of APs function decently.
I mean, there isn’t really any other choices for unlicensed consumer use? 5GHz is dedicated to WiFi. The sub-GHz bands would be great, as there isn’t a need for much bandwidth, but it’s a huge mishmash of frequencies that would require many different SKUs per device:
Initially, Dirigera will only support Matter device types that Ikea currently offers — so, no robot vacuums, door locks, or fridges. However, Granath says that as they launch more smart home products, the hub will be updated to support more device types.
Am I reading this right? Is there a filter possible where Ikea can decide to only accept Ikea ~mac addresses? If so, can they continue to ignore the wider product space?
… or will an Ikea thread hub automatically accept rando thread units as per standard and they’re just using really bad sentence structure?
It has to do with the device types not the devices themselves. Matter itself didn’t support every type of device at launch. It’s a software support thing.
The second. It works with non-Ikea devices, but only works with device types that have an Ikea version like bulbs.
Ah! Fantastic. Thanks !
