Yeah and none of them are available at MSRP so they can go piss off.
* in the usa
Last i checked europe was pretty close to msrp, which is weird because its usually a lot more expensive for us than it is for the usa. Just checked, rx 9700 xt msrp was around 670 euro (including tax). They are now for sale for 699-717 euro, including what usa calls sales tax.
I call that as close to msrp that youre ever going to get on a product.
I’m thinking my next GPU upgrade might be AMD, so i can migrate to Linux. But i bought a used one in 2023, so i gonna wait at least until the next gen comes out.
As others have said, Nvidia cards are OK in Linux now, though AMD is better assuming you aren’t doing anything AI adjacent with the card.
Until you want to update drivers and you can’t remember how the hell you installed it the last time.
I’m so confused by this common sentiment in the community. I’ve been gaming on Arch / NixOS for the past several months with an NVIDIA card after I switched earlier this year. Basically no issues.
Meanwhile, my buddy converted to Manjaro, and has a Radeon. He’s been having awful issues. Several of the games he plays crash constantly, especially if they are multiplayer. He tried switching to openSUSE recently; no real improvements.
I wanted to buy AMD for my eventual next card, but now I’m terrified of doing so, and deeply confused why everyone says AMD is better for Linux.
AMD has just historically been better, while NVIDIA terrible. The fact that NVIDIA became better is a relatively recent event, after they decided to start putting out official Linux drivers, and even then it took a while for them to make that stable, afaik.
Meanwhile, and this is also afaik, AMD has basically not really changed by much. NVIDIA just leaped them on the compat front on newer cards.
I only switched to an AMD GPU this year after 5 years using Nvidia cards. I assure you my situation is more common than yours. Your experience is also why people keep saying “Nvidia is OK now”, meaning quite clearly that it was absolutely not great before.
With Nvidia, once you got it installed and stable (if you were lucky your distro made that happen), it might stay good for many months to even a year. Then BLAM, some update catastrophically breaks your system and you’re stuck booting from a thumb drive trying to un-fuck your system. This was especially rough for me as I used my main system for work and gaming, so it had my Nvidia GPU in it.
My system has been smooth sailing since I switched to AMD. The drivers are in the kernel so it should be about as easy as it gets and shouldn’t be as finicky about which distro or DE you use. Now keep in mind that I am also on a top 7000 card, not a 9000 card, so I can’t speak to them from experience, but I haven’t heard any horror stories.
nVidia’s fine. Use a distro that keeps fairly current on driver updates like Fedora or Arch.
I think you lose around 15%+ performance in Linux with a Nvidia card. I tried Nobara and Bazzite and i can confirm it, although i did not make any hardcore benchmarking.
AMD i think is on par with windows or maybe slightly worse.
That tracks with what I have seen with my own cards. I suspect some of it is because there were specific driver versions that many distros favored for stability reasons that may have left some performance on the table, but that’s just my personal speculation.
I was going to get a 9070XT… When it was MSRP.
Couldn’t find one at launch and that MSRP is a myth now :(
I’m sure they’re selling plenty, but I’ve never seen supply missing, in the EU at least.
