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Total 2022 pay: $6,903,089
Total 2023 pay: $6,260,072 - a $643,017 decrease
Base chair pay: $600,000
2023 chair bonuses and other incentives: $5,622,600
Sources:
For comparison, here are other executive salaries ($0 bonuses for each)
| Executive name | Title | Total Pay (2023) |
|---|---|---|
| MARK SURMAN | PRESIDENT & EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR | 715,143 |
| J. BOB ALOTTA | SVP, GLOBAL PROGRAMS | 508,138 |
| ANGELA PLOHMAN | COO, SECRETARY & TREASURER | 452,234 |
| ASHLEY BOYD | SVP, GLOBAL ADVOCACY | 427,701 |
| ZHILUN PANG | DIRECTOR OF FINANCE | 273,069 |
| DAVID WALKER | SENIOR COUNSEL | 268,565 |
| LAINIE DECOURSY | DIRECTOR, ORG EFFECTIVENESS | 267,028 |
| JUAN BARANI | SENIOR DIRECTOR, GIFT PLANNING | 262,879 |
| STEPHANIE WRIGHT | SR PROGRAM MANAGER, MOZFEST | 236,785 |
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til my favorite browser has been losing a lot of ground over the years, i guess i’ve been living in my foxy bubble
The fact you’re on lemmy puts you in good company I believe. I, too, am fighting the chromium curse.
A better graph would compare salary to revenue and inflation
You can gain users while losing market share
2009, that’s about the time that smartphones were really taking off.
Chrome on Android and Safari on Apple now make up almost 90% of all internet browsing.
Usually I find these kinds of “non profit CEOs shouldn’t make money” things kind of annoying but honestly I don’t see any argument for a CEO to make more than a couple million regardless of context.
Remember people, 12M a year is over 32.000 a day. Every day.
People live on 32k a year.
Yeah that’s fucking insane. 2 million is over the top even
Yeah, you need a good and competent CEO and that’s especially important for a non profit. But most of those salaries are just extreme. Is it really impossible to find good people without paying them multi million salaries?
yeah, for profit ceos shouldn’t make money either. most ceos are useless at best.
This graph shows a disingenuous relationship between revenue and the market share of a free and open source project within the walls of a not-for-profit organization. Firefox is not a revenue stream in the traditional sense. In fact, most of Mozilla 's money comes from grants and donations for projects and research they do.
I get that CEO=EVIL is a viral topic these days but if all you know about Mozilla is that they make the Not Chrome browser, then you should really educate yourself on what it is that Mozilla actually does for the internet. Then you might feel a little better with this pay scale graph.
That all aside, this graph shows the market share of Mozilla when there were 5 browsers available to the vast majority of users, Internet Explorer, Firefox, chrome, Opera, and safari. It’s also before chrome took over the market share from IE at the same time that it pushed out Firefox as the leading browser because chrome was available on the iPhone and was the default browser on Android devices. Hardly a surprise to see that when the internet exploded in users and literally every human being started to carry around a chrome device in their pockets that Mozilla Firefox’s market share went down.
How much money do they actually spend on the development of Firefox? That’s a figure I haven’t been able to find. However, in 2023, they had $1.5 billion in assets.
The only justification for a high-paying CEO is if they need to coordinate some large scale fundraising effort - schmoozing with other rich fucks to gain further donations, and plotting elaborate strategies to get more donations.
They have $1.5 billion in assets. How much more do they really need? Need someone to manage Mozilla’s assets? Make me the CEO. I’ll do it for you. In fact, I’ll do it for free. That will be my contribution to the Firefox project. I’ll stick that $1.5 billion in simple bond and index funds and withdraw at a very conservative 2% rate. And that will provide $30 million a year to spend on developers to improve Firefox and other projects. And we can just keep doing that forever. I’ll purposefully withdraw funds at a rate lower than the market averages, so the real value of the endowment grows over time. And that will allow us to slowly expand the scope of operations and start new projects. And while I won’t spend any time or effort to schmooze and jet set across the country to kiss the ass of some billionaire, if one wants to throw some money in the pot, we’ll have a donation button on the website.
What a self serving wank fest
iphone/android etc
reasonable point but firefox is hardly better off if you look at only desktop share
https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/desktop/worldwide/#monthly-200901-202411
What a poor soul, started out only making half a million dollars a year?? 😑
Seems very suspicious that the CEO is getting paid millions while Firefox’s market share is dropping like an anvill.
I think that money would be better spent on improving the browser and making sure there are more privacy protections, maybe even set an example for other browsers to follow. Make average people actually want to use Firefox instead of Chrome.
Firefox user here, fuck chrome!
You can see where chrome and Firefox 3.x coexisted.
too much money but, mozilla does a lot more that firefox… (see also: rust
they started it, but it’s not been their project for a long time
Not even, they laid off most of their Rust people already.
they started it, but it’s not been their project for a long time
It’s sad to see Firefox continue to lose popularity I thought there might be some kind of comeback but no.
Part of the problem is both Chrome and Edge come installed by default on the company’s own products, and they have massive campaigns to keep you from switching, since user data is so profitable for them to sell.
It is up to us, the “person who does IT for the whole family” to beat back the other browsers.
Firefox is the default on Linux. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Ugh I use Firefox because fuck chrome, but they do have some really annoying ass bugs that should have been dealt with long ago before they kept adding features.
Like what?
Pull to refresh for starters on mobile is wonky as hell accidentally triggering. It’s not nearly as nice and consistent as chrome
Weird, I don’t know of a sire where I’ve had a problem with that.
Haven’t come across any bugs that i know of, but im really annoyed that they still haven’t added HDR support. Has been requested for literal years.
The market share plot looks suspiciously clean, where are those numbers from?
Edit: looks like they’re from page view data. I know I spoof my browser to show chrome for better compatibility, I wonder how common that is among Firefox users.
Do you use this extension? it allows you to do that on a site-by-site basis. Maybe only do it for sites with compatibility issues? You can report them right from the extension.
I spoof my browser (Librewolf) as Firefox for privacy and I don’t encounter issues from not reporting my user agent as Chrome/Chromium. I think it’s pretty uncommon for a website to not work on Firefox, so I don’t see how this is necessary. The Chrome Mask extension is meant to be used on a per-site basis.
Also, I was curious if users were going down or if chrome was growing faster. Looks like it is going down, but not as much as the market share would suggest.
What is a senior director of gift planning and how does that justify a salary of $260k?
They’re probably responsible for spending the nonprofit’s funds in meaningful ways by donating it to smaller projects. There needs to be someone who oversees it and ensures it’s not being wasted.
Is the same thing all management does in companies, fill pockets, if possible keep this the same or just let them die, run away.
Use resume to acquire new CEO job citing experience.
Can we get these graphs for duckduckgo superimposed on this one?
What happened in 2010?
