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  • Even today i find it important as the knowledge of how things work is vanishing and many just accept it works. But how will we build upon an idea if everyone forgets how it works?
    There is also the idea within software that layers of bodgework upon one another creates overcomplex and unstable software. Thats everything but software you want to ship.
    I understand you dont want all hobby work to reach professional levels, specially if youre trying something new! Thats ok!

    Its just once you reach a certain level things have to change to make it not suck, dont build on that :')
    Also one of the reasons i dont like retroarch.
    But i will accept they fill a need that is very much wanted and needed by people and there isnt really anything like it












  • Ok so, i might be late to all this as i was helping with the damage control. But let me get some facts straight out in the open. Yes this is part of the damage control im doing, but its to battle a lot of misinformation out there. So, lets get into it.

    First things first, marcan is wrong. Libogc ( the library homebrew is built upon )'s threading is not rtems. As youll see later, it was inspired by it, but not even close as to a copy paste or plagiarised when it was first made. Shagkur (the one who made lwp) is known to have created some stuff by looking at other stuff and writing code from the ideas. This was asked to shagkur when we were first made aware of the allegations 2 years ago

    Dkp didnt make this public as they did not feel like it was necessary.
    Its only now that marcan made a fuss about it and it blew up that we have to battle this.

    There is also the fact that libogc is 23 fucking years old. It was made by shagkur in 2003, before git or svn existed and before forums and social media was a thing. So you shouldnt put it up to todays standards either. On top of it, that was made for gamecube, not wii. Marcan was part of the migration to wii so he was part of it too.

    I also want to point out that he shouldnt be making a fuss as his mini code, a code base what their bootmii and installer is build upon, contains code that looks very similar to ios, the nintendo code running on the security processor.

    Anyway, there is more. Yes people have found similarities, but thats because of how things work, not because of copy pasta. I would like to redirect your attention to this blogpost and investigation by mardy : https://mardy.it/blog/2025/04/no-libogc-did-not-steal-rtems-code.html

    Inline edit about the blog: i want to point out the lwp code also evolved over time to fit newlib better and to integrate standard c/c++ code better. But lets keep going, shall we?

    Im not going to deny that parts of libogc are semi decompilations of the then leaked gamecube sdk. devkitPro didnt know this untill years after it had integrated libogc into its systems. But by then it was wildly used so there was no going back. Rewriting it would also not have been feasible to do alone. Hence the state it is in now. But as far as the new lwp allegations, its all false.

    Also, and this is my personal thing, hbc archiving their repo was a pure dick move. They didnt do anything with it anymore, they didnt merge or accept improvements nor did they want to release a new version that would have fixed some stuff for wiiu/vwii. Its was considered dead by the community ages ago…





  • You and i read different things. I hated how he worded them, but his arguments at greppable and understandable are valid arguments that go beyond rust and if he can read it or not or refuses to.
    Mixing languages in a part of a project brings complexity and is often a huge ass nono because it makes things unreadable and hard to manage on a large scale.
    He also argues that a c interface exists to connect 2 parts of a system. The person that changes the interface should not have to alter the users of that interface, if they do then you get intertwined dependencies, which is a huge ass red flag for developers that something has gone terrible wrong and the project is not going to scale or will be easy to change.
    So if he changes the interface, the rust team will need to fix it, specially since they are the minority.
    That also doesnt mean he can change it in whatever way without worry, it is an interface change, that needs discussions and approvals ahead of time ofc.


  • You seem to be in the loops of the linux kernel?
    If so, ive known hector from way before when we was part of f0f, or TT as they were known before, doing wii homebrew work.
    What you describe is what my experience was with him 14 years ago too. The guy is smart, he has a very good skill set and knowledge, but his communication skills were lacking back then too.
    Granted, both he and myself were still teenagers and students and we were wild, but i had always assumed he grew up a bit since then…

    What you said is spot on, and i hope he does read both of these. And if he does :
    Marcan, you might not know who i am anymore, but ffs man. Dont screw up your love for all of these by keep kicking the hornets nests. You did it with devkitpro, emudevs when the nier news dropped and with rossman too. Stop it, its for your own good.