• DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    Maybe for some rando site, Google and any half competent site has HSTS enabled, meaning a browser won’t even try to connect with insecure HTTP, nor allow user to bypass the security error, as long as the HSTS header is remembered by the browser (the site was visited recently, set to 1 year for google).

    In addition, google will also be on HSTS preload lists, so it won’t work even if you never visited the site.

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      12 hours ago

      That makes me realize, what kind of country doesn’t cobtrol it’s dns space’s encryption certificates. That’s a major oversight.

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        11 hours ago

        What? What do you mean “DNS space”? Classic DNS does not have any security, no encryption and no signatures.

        DNSSEC, which adds signatures, is based on TLDs, not any geography or country. And it is not yet enabled for most domains, though I guess it would be for google. But obviously EU does not control .com.

        And if you mean TLS certificates, those are a bit complicated and I already explained why forging those would be problematic and not work on Chrome, though it could be done.

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          Yes I mean tls certs as those control what dns records are considered valid. The Eu should control which tls are considered valid within its territory and that should be considetedpart of their security apparatus. It’s crazy irresponsible to have left that up to unaccountable private foreign entities. This is what would make it difficult to control their own independant version of the dns namespace.

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            39 minutes ago

            No. At the end of the day, I control which certificates I consider valid. Browsers just choose the defaults. There is no way I quietly let some government usurp that power, considering how easy to abuse it is.

            Yes I mean tls certs as those control what dns records are considered valid.

            No they don’t. That is not what TLS really does. But I guess close enough.