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      unfortunately firefox numbers are still going down, the manufest v3 bounce never really happened

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    Brave? The browser that hides ads and substitutes their own? The one that keeps you private from Google AdSense so they can sell your data themselves? The one that keeps their Chromium build lean, so that you don’t notice the crypto miner running along side of it?

    The fucking PayPal Honey of browsers? When the fuck did they ever look good? They’re like the “Banzai Buddy” of the HTML5 era

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      Vanilla Firefox is not clean either. It

      • Has sponsored articles on new tabs
      • Uses Google by default

      Though, these are trivial to disable and even come pre-done on the linux distro I’m using to writ this comment.

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        Honestly, I’m fine with Google being the default search engine (since they pay a lot for the priviledge and it’s trivial to remove). What I acrually have a problem with is Firefox using Google Firebase for analytics and Google whatever for “safe search” queries, etc. These are a lot more hidden, which I find borderline malicious. With the search engine you at least get the notification of “fuck I’m on Google” whenever you search for something, so it doesn’t do all that much harm since it’s very opaque, unlike having to refer people to ffprofiles to purge google completely.

        On that note - if you want to get rid of Google from Firefox as much as possible visit ffprofiles. It has it all nicely explained. You just tick some boxes and apply the profile as per the ~5-step instructions. You’ll be done in less than 20 minutes.

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    The same Brave founded by the anti-LGBTQ+ & anti-DEI CEO that doesn’t believe that gay people should have the same rights as straight people? Color me shocked!

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    I think anyone who is already using Firefox knows very well why they wouldn’t want to use Brave 🤷 (My main reasons were being a Chromium browser and having unwanted crypto features included.)

    Edit: Oh yes, and the CEO’s homophobia is not helping either…

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      Points 1 and 2 are absolutely on FF. You can also set it to private by default. This is not a factual graphic.

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        Firefox started blocking YouTube ads without plugins?

        You can also set it to

        Grandma isn’t going to go into security settings. I really with FF would just make it the default on install.

        Everything in that list can easily be made the same, but they’re not the same without some basic knowledge of wanting it.

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          Grandma isn’t going to use Brave either.
          Nor is she going to click on ads to “earn” crypto coins.

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      The real good: Baked in Youtube ad-blocking with a full dev team playing keep up with youtube Better at anti-fingerprinting Built-in mediocre TOR support.

      The real bad: They will sell your data. They will sell your data from their VPN

      The rest of their bad is optional. Don’t use them for search and don’t use their crypto.

      If you’re going to use them, at least keep a fully equivalently outfitted copy of firefox, you don’t want to get stuck if they finally decide to turn full evil.

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        if they finally decide to turn full evil.

        Yeah this is the brave experience. Free and open source product that behaves as advertised… from a company that acts like they’re perpetually on the brink of fucking you over. Really hope this doesn’t happen, brave’s approach to antifingerprinting is actually quite interesting and completely different to what we see in the firefox-based hardened browsers.

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          I honestly really like what they do with the fingerprinting. But it’s just a straight trade. Now amazon can’t follow me directly, but Brave will certainly sell Amazon the info that I shopped at Home Depot looking for discontinued air filters :)

          FF fingerprinting with UO and privacy badger are by no means bad, they are actually quite acceptable.

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            What does privacy badger do that isn’t covered by UO? Is it worth it to install privacy badger if I already use a browser like librewolf that nukes all data every time it’s restarted?

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              It’s EFF’s tracker blocker. All they have is their name, so I have a lot of trust in them. I use it in concert with chrome and firefox based browsers. In FF it tightens up the tracking a bit. Doesn’t eat much ram/time.

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    Daily reminder that Brave uses Chromium, an open source project where all the commits are approved or denied by Google devs.

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    Hahahhaah. If they are so desperate they are trying to knock off the 10 or so users on Firefox they must really be in dire straights.

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    Meh, they can shoot at Firefox if they want, but it’s actually pretty good marketing for the Fox.

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    I don’t know much about brave except that its chromium based and apparently removes web ads as its main feature. Why are they running ads? Why do I keep getting this browser recommended? How the fuck do they make money to be able to target me with this info? Something is off and I don’t like it. I feel like the pressure to use brave isnt coming to me organically so I’m staying clear of it. I just have a bad feeling and I’ll trust my gut on this.

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      Because they “reward” people with crypto for watching ads so a lot of cryptobro assholes have financial interest in the browser getting more popular.

      Also the CEO is homophobic and right-wing so it speaks to a lot of loud assholes.

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      Its full of crypto bullshit as well, and they add their own ads too some pages that they pay you to watch (in a useless crypto)

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      Well, they threatened students for creating a fork. So yeah, they are dead to me

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    Broke one of the golden rules of advertising (at least the advertising lessons I learned from an old advertising guy I knew a long time ago)

    Never mention your competition in your advertising … because every time you do, you’ve given them free advertising.

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        It appeared for me as well. As the second result, under “Limited-time events”, first result was Firefox. What followed below in the “More results” were the rest of the Firefox variants.