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- firefox@lemmy.world
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- firefox@lemmy.world
Daily reminder that Brave uses Chromium, an open source project where all the commits are approved or denied by Google devs.
I think anyone who is already using Firefox knows very well why they wouldn’t want to use Brave 🤷 (My main reasons were being a Chromium browser and having unwanted crypto features included.)
Edit: Oh yes, and the CEO’s homophobia is not helping either…
Ah shit. Didn’t know about that. Uninstalling. Is there an iOS browser that will hide my device fingerprint other than Brave?
Brave? The browser that hides ads and substitutes their own? The one that keeps you private from Google AdSense so they can sell your data themselves? The one that keeps their Chromium build lean, so that you don’t notice the crypto miner running along side of it?
The fucking PayPal Honey of browsers? When the fuck did they ever look good? They’re like the “Banzai Buddy” of the HTML5 era
CEO is a bigot, too.
No elaboration on that ?
I thought it was common knowledge; he donated to some anti-LGBTQ political campaigns in the US which ultimately lead him to resign from Mozilla and start up his own browser. Which is good enough reason in my opinion to avoid it regardless of what ever else might be good about Brave.
Thanks for elaborating & you were kind enough to inform (unlike the fascist guttrotten clowns who disliked)
They managed to piss off Tom Scott.
A thing I had not previously considered was possible.
“Forget the fox!”
… “Contains ads”
No, I don’t think I will.
unfortunately firefox numbers are still going down, the manufest v3 bounce never really happened
I never liked or trusted Brave for what it claims it fights for
Contains Ads
I don’t know why anyone ever installed Brave
I think it’s more, “may contain ads, if you opt-in to earning BAT.”
Make it
Contains a way to earn some kind of currency
So the browser itself is like an ad
The ads were the propagandas we met along the way!
Brave still does include ads enabled by default. You need to disable sponsored images in the New Tab page.
Vanilla Firefox is not clean either. It
- Has sponsored articles on new tabs
- Uses Google by default
Though, these are trivial to disable and even come pre-done on the linux distro I’m using to writ this comment.
Honestly, I’m fine with Google being the default search engine (since they pay a lot for the priviledge and it’s trivial to remove). What I acrually have a problem with is Firefox using Google Firebase for analytics and Google whatever for “safe search” queries, etc. These are a lot more hidden, which I find borderline malicious. With the search engine you at least get the notification of “fuck I’m on Google” whenever you search for something, so it doesn’t do all that much harm since it’s very opaque, unlike having to refer people to ffprofiles to purge google completely.
On that note - if you want to get rid of Google from Firefox as much as possible visit ffprofiles. It has it all nicely explained. You just tick some boxes and apply the profile as per the ~5-step instructions. You’ll be done in less than 20 minutes.
Not very professional.
It’s not the 90s and they are not rivaling fast food chains.
Oh wow! I need to install this ultra bloated version of Chromium.
Brave has never had a good look.
Forget the Lion
I don’t know much about brave except that its chromium based and apparently removes web ads as its main feature. Why are they running ads? Why do I keep getting this browser recommended? How the fuck do they make money to be able to target me with this info? Something is off and I don’t like it. I feel like the pressure to use brave isnt coming to me organically so I’m staying clear of it. I just have a bad feeling and I’ll trust my gut on this.
Because they “reward” people with crypto for watching ads so a lot of cryptobro assholes have financial interest in the browser getting more popular.
Also the CEO is homophobic and right-wing so it speaks to a lot of loud assholes.
Its full of crypto bullshit as well, and they add their own ads too some pages that they pay you to watch (in a useless crypto)
Well, they threatened students for creating a fork. So yeah, they are dead to me
They block all ads except their own.
“Fire the Fox” would have been a better slogan
After installing Brave I was getting some kind of failed login popup in my GNOME desktop environment. Uninstalled it and the popup disappeared. It gave me the heeby jeebies about Brave.
Not to defend Brave, but this sounds like it was just a pop-up for the Gnome key wallet or something like that.
Yeah, it tries to use the keyring to store passwords every time you launch it even if you turned off password saving, the same applies to chrome and chromium browsers in general plus most password managers, tho not always. I tried to troubleshoot it, most forums online suggested to remove gnome key-rings if you are not using them but it kept reinstalling it. This plus brave being slower on mobile made me switch to firefox
Ah so that’s what it was!
Sure, I just found it too annoying and the easiest solution was to uninstall Brave.
The same Brave founded by the anti-LGBTQ+ & anti-DEI CEO that doesn’t believe that gay people should have the same rights as straight people? Color me shocked!
Yep, Brave is the butt-hurt edgelord of browsers.
And they made a donation to an anti gay marraige org on mozillas behalf.
WTF‽ Were they trying to frame Mozilla as anti-LGBT?
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Incorrect, he was CEO in 2014
It’s technically correct with all of these but extremely disingenuous.
Kind of funny they list their built-in, paid VPN as a positive feature and not a negative. Maybe they were running out of good things to say about… Themselves.
Granted, Mozilla also shot themselves in the foot by saying Firefox was better for not blocking ads by default, but that’s a different story for a different day
Out of the ling of things I will never trust, free VPN is near the top of the list
The real good: Baked in Youtube ad-blocking with a full dev team playing keep up with youtube Better at anti-fingerprinting Built-in mediocre TOR support.
The real bad: They will sell your data. They will sell your data from their VPN
The rest of their bad is optional. Don’t use them for search and don’t use their crypto.
If you’re going to use them, at least keep a fully equivalently outfitted copy of firefox, you don’t want to get stuck if they finally decide to turn full evil.
if they finally decide to turn full evil.
Yeah this is the brave experience. Free and open source product that behaves as advertised… from a company that acts like they’re perpetually on the brink of fucking you over. Really hope this doesn’t happen, brave’s approach to antifingerprinting is actually quite interesting and completely different to what we see in the firefox-based hardened browsers.
I honestly really like what they do with the fingerprinting. But it’s just a straight trade. Now amazon can’t follow me directly, but Brave will certainly sell Amazon the info that I shopped at Home Depot looking for discontinued air filters :)
FF fingerprinting with UO and privacy badger are by no means bad, they are actually quite acceptable.
What does privacy badger do that isn’t covered by UO? Is it worth it to install privacy badger if I already use a browser like librewolf that nukes all data every time it’s restarted?
It’s EFF’s tracker blocker. All they have is their name, so I have a lot of trust in them. I use it in concert with chrome and firefox based browsers. In FF it tightens up the tracking a bit. Doesn’t eat much ram/time.
Points 1 and 2 are absolutely on FF. You can also set it to private by default. This is not a factual graphic.
on Fx*
Firefox started blocking YouTube ads without plugins?
You can also set it to
Grandma isn’t going to go into security settings. I really with FF would just make it the default on install.
Everything in that list can easily be made the same, but they’re not the same without some basic knowledge of wanting it.
Grandma isn’t going to use Brave either.
Nor is she going to click on ads to “earn” crypto coins.