A lot of people seem to argue about ricing and the “original” meaning of it. But honestly as an Asian I don’t really think any Asian(at least in my country) actually care or even know the meaning of it. The ricing term of the Linux community is far from racism. What so wrong with rice? cuz we love it? I honestly don’t get it.
It is clearly racist. “Ricing” comes from a derogatory term for Asian racing vehicles. You cannot excuse the racism inherent to it by personal ignorance. It’s the same logic as black face being racist, whether you’re personally aware of the history behind it or not.
Though I no longer live in the US, as an Asian computer scientist, I am quite aware of how it is clearly perceived as a racist term by many Asian Americans. To me, it will also never stop being offensive. So, please, stop with this “ricing” stuff.
So it is an American thing then? I feel sorry for you to experience that. But I personally never see anyone even use it in a racism way. Probably because of my own ignorance like you said. The internet is open tho. It is not just for US culture/culture issue. So honestly for the rest of the world, I do not think it is an issue at all. Maybe we can try to resolve it in some way? Idk
The term “rice burner” originated in the Anglo-American context, and the word “ricing” cannot be divorced from the way people use “rice” as a versatile and generic racial epithet in varied context outside of the software world. As in people going, “haha, rice” something when being racist against Asians. It’s a long and ignominious American tradition to demean racial minorities with food. As in insulting Mexicans with “bean”. Anecdotally, some older Italians still remember being made to feel bad for eating pasta, when Italians weren’t white yet. The term “ricing” will certainly remain racist due to the way anti-Asian racism continues to work. Hence my point that the term must be abandoned, if one wishes to not be racist. Just find a different word for it. it ain’t that hard. It is certainly not possible to use an American word with racist origins without divorcing it from the cultural context from which it came.
Mental Outlaw is a reich-wing freak, so that’s par for the course. Unfortunately, there are a fair amount of these shitheads in the Linux YouTube space.
I’m reposting a reply to similar comment. Replying to “Mental Outlaw is far right and cryptobro”. But the TLDR of that could be that he has some takes that people here like and some takes that people here don’t like but he is not a National Socialist, otherwise give source. Perhaps Drew has been cooking again?
Those are just insults people, who cannot gasp that someone could have a slightly different opinion about something, use against him.
Some political things about him include: He …
is an anarchist (or somewhere on that political spectrum)
wants to have the right to own a gun
is pro free speech
thinks using money should not have to earn mega corporations that much money
thinks “brother should not kill brother” in the war in Ukraine
is not a fan of Elon Musk, Teslas or self driving cars
is pro Free Software and for privacy
Obviously depends on what is meant with “far right nutjob”. If it implies that anarchy (no government) is the opposite of socialism (far left - maximum government) then yeah but usually it just means “massive bigot”, which I don’t think he is, otherwise give source.
Similar with crypto bro. For me it means the pump and dump scheme scammer or at least someone who is pro crypto because he sees it as a mean to get rich quick. But if “Crypto bro” just means anyone who likes the advantages of crypto, then he indeed is one.
But regardless of how we name things, he doesn’t have any evil values (as far as I know). He just has different opinions than the average lemmy user. It should not be hard to tolerate him, considering this platform is a mass murderer fanclub (actual evil values, not just “quirky” politics).
His level of schizo is kinda funny but his comment section is even funnier. People there are actually delusional. They for example think every software is a fed honeypot, even open source stuff. bruh just look at the source. They should definitely seek professional help.
I was really enjoying the video until he used the word “ricing”. While the creator may not know, that word is fairly racist.
A lot of people seem to argue about ricing and the “original” meaning of it. But honestly as an Asian I don’t really think any Asian(at least in my country) actually care or even know the meaning of it. The ricing term of the Linux community is far from racism. What so wrong with rice? cuz we love it? I honestly don’t get it.
im asian, i like rice. i like linux. im not offended.
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It is clearly racist. “Ricing” comes from a derogatory term for Asian racing vehicles. You cannot excuse the racism inherent to it by personal ignorance. It’s the same logic as black face being racist, whether you’re personally aware of the history behind it or not.
Though I no longer live in the US, as an Asian computer scientist, I am quite aware of how it is clearly perceived as a racist term by many Asian Americans. To me, it will also never stop being offensive. So, please, stop with this “ricing” stuff.
So it is an American thing then? I feel sorry for you to experience that. But I personally never see anyone even use it in a racism way. Probably because of my own ignorance like you said. The internet is open tho. It is not just for US culture/culture issue. So honestly for the rest of the world, I do not think it is an issue at all. Maybe we can try to resolve it in some way? Idk
The term “rice burner” originated in the Anglo-American context, and the word “ricing” cannot be divorced from the way people use “rice” as a versatile and generic racial epithet in varied context outside of the software world. As in people going, “haha, rice” something when being racist against Asians. It’s a long and ignominious American tradition to demean racial minorities with food. As in insulting Mexicans with “bean”. Anecdotally, some older Italians still remember being made to feel bad for eating pasta, when Italians weren’t white yet. The term “ricing” will certainly remain racist due to the way anti-Asian racism continues to work. Hence my point that the term must be abandoned, if one wishes to not be racist. Just find a different word for it. it ain’t that hard. It is certainly not possible to use an American word with racist origins without divorcing it from the cultural context from which it came.
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Don’t shoot the messenger, I’m just sharing what was taught to me. I don’t really have the spoons to sit here and debate or defend it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rice_burner
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Sorry sweaty, it’s 2025 and we’re anti-woke now 💅 /s
have you seen anyone offended by it?
Precisely one person, here in this thread, on behalf of imagined others.
Could you please explain how is ricing racist?
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OK, I have to save this for the next time I see this shit again.
Mental Outlaw is a reich-wing freak, so that’s par for the course. Unfortunately, there are a fair amount of these shitheads in the Linux YouTube space.
I’m reposting a reply to similar comment. Replying to “Mental Outlaw is far right and cryptobro”. But the TLDR of that could be that he has some takes that people here like and some takes that people here don’t like but he is not a National Socialist, otherwise give source. Perhaps Drew has been cooking again?
Those are just insults people, who cannot gasp that someone could have a slightly different opinion about something, use against him.
Some political things about him include: He …
Obviously depends on what is meant with “far right nutjob”. If it implies that anarchy (no government) is the opposite of socialism (far left - maximum government) then yeah but usually it just means “massive bigot”, which I don’t think he is, otherwise give source.
Similar with crypto bro. For me it means the pump and dump scheme scammer or at least someone who is pro crypto because he sees it as a mean to get rich quick. But if “Crypto bro” just means anyone who likes the advantages of crypto, then he indeed is one.
But regardless of how we name things, he doesn’t have any evil values (as far as I know). He just has different opinions than the average lemmy user. It should not be hard to tolerate him, considering this platform is a mass murderer fanclub (actual evil values, not just “quirky” politics).
Aw, that sucks that they’re infesting Linux, too. I thought that free/open source would be too commie-socialist for them.
he definitely leans right but he still supports foss and all the important stuff around that so does it actually matter much as a Linux YouTuber?
also his level of schizo is pretty funny
His level of schizo is kinda funny but his comment section is even funnier. People there are actually delusional. They for example think every software is a fed honeypot, even open source stuff. bruh just look at the source. They should definitely seek professional help.
We have seen where just not caring about someone being the right wing nut job has led. Are we really going to keep using that excuse?
dictators will dictate whatever their political alignment is