Absolutely “shocked” I tell you.
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This is dumb.
Even if you encrypt network traffic, the receiving server still knows what you’re doing. All it does is prevent third parties from snooping.
Usually.
Yes, so not only are they doing something shady, they’re doing something shady and exposing your data to anyone wanting to snoop it. What’s dumb about criticising the latter part?
The fact that anyone thinks they have any semblance of privacy when typing into an online AI chatbot is saddening.
Of course anything you type into a externally hosted AI is going to be harvested and sold.
But sure, in this case you are also potentially exposing your queries to your ISP or someone listening on your local network too.
Regardless of the downstream server, you should expect the interim traffic to be encrypted in transit
Sure, it’s not a bad thing and it should be standard practice, but to act like encrypted traffic guarantees privacy is silly.
The thing is that with the traffic unencrypted it opens the door to all sorts of attacks on that traffic.
It’s not just privacy.
If you can intercept and interpret you have the ability to replace as well.
This is the integrity of your data
Tell me where in this thread are anyone expecting privacy from any online LLM service, or anyone saying encrypted traffic guarantees privacy?
Yep it also prevents anyone in the airport impersonating the WiFi and the bytedance server (which is trivial) and crafting payloads that run insecure code on your phone ( not that easy but there’s heaps of CVEs like this in apps like Safari over the years, so there’s at least 2x as many in an app like this)
The hell? There’s no reason to use plain HTTP instead of HTTPS.
And symmetric encryption is wildly irresponsible as well.
Well many of China’s websites don’t even use HTTPS. Look at china.org.cn, or en.people.cn for example
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How the fuck do I explain this boner, now?
Ah, the ol’ Blahaj Pik-a-choo
And that’s why you use local instances…
2nd place is duck.AI in via tor browser
True, but you need powerful server in order to run the most capable Deepseek model, which most people don’t have.
That’s an understatement. It won’t even fit well in 8xA100, you need an EPYC server to run it in CPU RAM, very slowly.
To run the 671B parameter R1, my napkin math was something like 3/4 of a million dollars in hardware. But that (plus the much lower training cost) made this a millionaire’s game rather than a billionaire’s. Plus the distillations do seem better than anything else we have at the smaller sizes at the moment. That said, I’m more looking forward to the first use of deepseek’s methods with google’s Titan architectures.
Fucking duh
its nice of them not to encrypt it at least. it can get harvested along the way!
No shit?
Does this actually matter so long as I just ask it questions I want answers to? I’m not feeding it any personal information. Sincere question. Enlighten me if so.
Having an app installed gives it a lot of information
Unencrypted just means people on the way to that server can peek
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Do you understand what you’re commenting on or just commenting hoping it’s funny?
