Despite Microsoft’s push to get customers onto Windows 11, growth in the market share of the software giant’s latest operating system has stalled, while Windows 10 has made modest gains, according to fresh figures from Statcounter.

This is not the news Microsoft wanted to hear. After half a year of growth, the line for Windows 11 global desktop market share has taken a slight downturn, according to the website usage monitor, going from 35.6 percent in October to 34.9 percent in November. Windows 10, on the other hand, managed to grow its share of that market by just under a percentage point to 61.8 percent.

The dip in usage comes just as Microsoft has been forcing full-screen ads onto the machines of customers running Windows 10 to encourage them to upgrade. The stats also revealed a small drop in the market share of its Edge browser, despite relentlessly plugging the application in the operating system.

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    I still fail to see how windows 11 was anything but a collusion scam to sell new hardware.

    None of the changes including TPM requirements required a new iteration. Nothing about the underlying NT dropped any of the old and antiquated BS despite Microsoft hiring some morons to advertise the fact on reddit to all the insiders asking questions.

    They even let the media pick up a fake report that Windows 11 was related to the Core OS and a brand new kernel was in the works.

    If Microsoft wanted a marketing strategy, they could have properly started naming feature updates and adverising them similar to Apple.

    8, 10, and 11 have also been a pain on enterprise because Microsoft axed their QA team. I seriously hope any new firms start considering linux desktop as a valid option. All they really need is a vendor to offer a solid distro along with an agreement to rapidly create/deploy any software solution so they don’t get scared looking at the cheap entry windows stuff.

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      You’re absolutely right. The fact that people can work around the requirement for UEFI, TPM, and SecureBoot shows that it still runs fine on legacy BIOS. I’ve been saying this forever, it’s like a car radio company telling car dealerships to only allow them to be installed into cars with car alarms and then claiming that the radio is secure (when the security is a feature of the car, not the radio). It’s such bullshit…

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    I had to make the change to Windows 11 at work, it was certainly a downgrade. Pretty common that there is a massive wait for even the most simple applications to load. Quite often I end up opening multiple copies, because I think the first click to open didn’t register, click again and they all open at once. This is on the same hardware that Windows 10 did fine on.

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    I don’t understand how Windows 11 file system/explorer just chugs so much. If you have a folder with more than a dozen or so files, it’s optional whether anything will load or not. Everything about Windows 11 is leaning into the worst aspects of windows 10, without any benefit.

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      And how do they still fucking suck at searching for files. I can’t find shit without the Everything app

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      This is expected from Microsoft. It’s their tick tock pattern of good windows based windows. 95 good, ME bad, XP good, Vista bad, 7 good, 8 bad, 10 good, 11bad.

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      Yes, they added tabs, which is good. But made the rest crap. When you right click a file, copy is just 1cm higher. At the top of the pop up.

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    I’ll stick to Win10 until the end of the support period, just like how I stuck to Win7 as long as I could 😬 That was still my favourite OS, loved Aero 🥺

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    The dip in usage comes just as Microsoft has been forcing full-screen ads onto the machines of customers running Windows 10 to encourage them to upgrade.

    Yeah no shit! When my computer does full-screen, disruptive things that I didn’t tell it to do, I figure out how to remove that malware. I’ve been off Windows at home for about a month now, thanks Linux Mint! Getting some games to work has been challenging, but most things have just worked and quite a few work much better!

    Performance is up overall, and my confidence that my computer isn’t running a bunch of secret ad and spy ware is way up. Hardware like my gamepad and microphone would randomly disconnect and have issues on Windows, all working perfectly now.

    Unfortunately I’m still deep in MS land for work, but there’s almost a comedic quality to it. Everything’s very slow, everyone has constant issues with Teams, or Office online, or Dynamics, or copilot shoving it’s tendrils into everything. Watching businesses struggle to keep operating in the face of Microsoft’s inadequacy is like being a mechanic watching a motor grind to a halt because the owner/manufacturer replaced all the oil with syrup.

    Like yes, it’s my problem to fix, but I’m just glad it’s not my car.

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      Welcome fellow minter. Try Steam / Proton… simple and seemless for a huge chunk of games.

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    Well, Microsoft said way back when that “Windows 10 will be the last version of Windows” so a lot of enterprise went to it. To this day I’m dealing with vendors that have a certified “Windows 10-only” solution. Another funny one is stuff like Ford’s FDRS software still only officially supports Windows 10 Pro.

    Platform changes and all that are fine, but when Microsoft says basically “This is gonna be your LTS forever” and then bails on it, shit like this is no surprise at all.

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      I’ll admit to some ‘asterisk’ to that.

      So a developer evangelist said “because Windows 10 is the last version of Windows, we’re all still working on Windows 10”. So the media ran with the most intuitive interpretation of that language and expanded on it and declared that Microsoft was basically changing to a rolling release model. Note that folks say “he meant latest, not last”.

      Meanwhile, Microsoft’s formal lifecycle statement said, from the onset, that it wasn’t going to be supported in 10 years.

      However, Microsoft did nothing to clarify the rampant coverage. So I’m still on the side of “the popular impression among people was eternally supported rolling release”. Just acknowledging that, formally, they did designate 10 the same way they had designated previous versions.

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        I agree with you fully, and that’s my main point. Their own forums were full of the question being repeatedly asked and dismissed, granted by “MVP’s” or independent advisors who have no link to the internal development or plans, they should have stepped up their messaging. The enterprise I work for pays them a fuckton of money, and we even have our own dedicated account reps who sang the same tune those fuckers on the forums did, and they were legit Microsoft employees. When W10’s EOL was announced they sent over a lot of gift baskets to our VP’s over that shit, because we knew how many mission critical systems we had that just got fucked in the ass, and our budgetary outlays just changed.

        Complete fucking asshole move, and it could’ve been much better if the messaging were just handled differently.

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          Yeah, I strongly suspect there was a camp within Microsoft that was 100% pushing for ‘rolling release’ model for the OS versus another traditionalist camp that said there would be new major upgrades. Further, I bet rather than reconciling those perspectives, they just let both camps continue on under their own assumption, until eventually the traditionalists won out and got ‘Windows 11’, finalizing which way the company was going to actually go.

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    im forced to use it at work and holy shit. 11 is so heavy for no reason, 8gb of ram is not remotely enough anymore, even if you yank out some of the garbage. theres no apparent change in functionality to justify it.

    the ssd smart says its almost at its end, and i suspect its because its constantly swapping. paging file is always full, unless i set it to something big like 8+ gb

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      It’s just a hunch, but my suspicion is it’s already capturing a lot of data for Recall to process later after it’s launched.

      I can’t think of any other reasonable explanation for the severe performance decrease on Windows 11.

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    Wellp… This morning I was ready to go to work and have a few meetings but thanks to windows 11 inconvenient update service now I can just come here to complain.

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    The moment I can verify a solution for my music production workflow on Linux, I know that I’m out as well.

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      Where are you on that process? I do 2D visuals and i’m at the point where all software that i use is available on Linux, but i have yet to actually try it in practice

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        I haven’t had a lot of time recently to look, but I know FL studio can mostly be set up to work through wine. The problems exist in the plugins/VST’s/ the VST management softwares/ the Audio interface drivers and latency.

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          Yeah, i ruled out Wine as an option pretty early on and i don’t remember why. May have been compatibility issues?

          I have cheap audio interfaces (C600, Alesis IO2, M-Audio FastTrack Pro and such), and apparently they’re supposed to be natively compatible with Linux. Huge if true, on Windows i had to install drivers for each of them, including a community-built one. I don’t know what this means for pro interfaces but it’s encouraging

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      Im at the same point. I spent quite some Money on Studio one and plugins…i’ll probably try a setup with Wine and/or Yabridge soon. Wouldnt mind that much if i had to switch to Reaper.

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        If you do so, I would be interested in hearing about the experience and any troubleshooting you had to perform to fix problems.

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      What do you do? I have been doing some hobby stuff with generating music once a few months.

      Nothing serious, but music seems to actually be the only area on desktop (outside of development) where Linux is fully competitive.

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        My workflow is in FL studio, however the bigger problem is my VST libraries. I have the entire Arturia V collection as well as many, many more plugins and I am unsure if they would run on Linux, or if they do, how well. This is unfortunately a big problem as my collection of VST’s total into the thousands of dollars. I suppose I could run a windows VM to make everything function, but then I would probably have problems with latency/connectivity on my audio interface when I want to patch any of my hardware in, if drivers are even available for the interface in on Linux (It’s just a scarlett 2i2 I believe).

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    I’ve been apprehensive to all kinds of adverts for years, I guess the general population is catching up to me on this trend.

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    I literally left windows because of the incessant ads for 11. The last straw was them forcing copilot on my windows 10 install, but a lot of other things were bugging me way too much before I kicked the bucket. Thankfully I have the help of a friend that uses Linux daily and my boyfriend who just knows a fuckton about computers, but after finishing the initial setup I haven’t really had any issues

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    Hmmm… Maybe people using windows 10 really do love the full screen ads! Yeah! They missed the ads so they went back to windows 10 until they can get those ads in windows 11! Yup! That must be it!

    I would double down on full screen unstoppable ads. Maybe one that looks like a BSOD? That would be lovely!

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      As much as I loved 2000, XP was better and 7 the best ever.

      2000 was the pioneer though, it was such a huge step forward in every way

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        Long time Linux user here. The smoothest OS I’ve ever used was xp64. That just ran like butter. Unfortunately, it was killed off to push people to Vista.