• tempest@lemmy.ca
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    7 days ago

    These threads are always hilarious. People are not switching to any kind of desktop. They are moving away from PCs entirely. There is an entire population who only use a phone as their computer.

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      I truly yearn for the day i can just plug in a phone into a dock and use it as a PC honestly.

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        They arent the strongest phone out there, but the PinePhone (and Pro) can do exactly that. I am heavily considering one for a second phone to play with

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    When my elderly, and tech illiterate family ask how to switch from Windows; I’m sorry but I’m not telling them to use Linux because they’re going to harass me nonstop for tech support.

    At best this will be the year of macOS, because there’s a store I can send them to for all their questions.

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    This is going to be my Year of Linux, finally taking the plunge. Nothing special, just a used laptop running Mint to replace a Chromebook (who’s hardware has finally failed). Gonna try to replace my gaming PC next year once I’ve got more of a handle on the different distros and have played around with them (and more money).

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    20 years and counting its been Linux desktop for me. There really hasn’t been a good alternative yet.

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    7 days ago

    Lain is what prompted me to switch to Linux! Watching a character who doesn’t yet understand computers fuck around with a computer really inspired me to fuck around with my computer

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    Honest question, how would my life improve if more people switched to Linux? God bless all the maintainers that have made it simple enough for an idiot like me to understand it

    Most things work right out of the box and those that don’t I could do less with anyway, Linux is perfect

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      Less corporate shitfuckery all around. Right now Windows pretty much has a monopoly on the desktop, which is why they have completely stopped caring about users. Once Linux gets above ten percent market share or so, they’ll take notice. And then whine about “communism” or some bullshit.

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    I am mid switch, but it’s not been smooth or easy. I chose Manjaro and maybe I chose poorly. I am a lifelong techie, and have used Ubuntu and Mint in short stints in the past, but the transition is rough.

    I didn’t attempt the switch before because I primarily played Destiny 2 and Bungie hates Linux. The enshittification of Destiny drove me away, and in theory the games I am playing now should work. I have had mixed results however.

    I play Darktide and Vermintide 2 and heavily use their modding scenes to make them fully playable. Vortex mod manager is a huge bonus for this, and I still haven’t been able to set this up.

    My Elgato equipment has community support, but has a bunch of steps to get working that I haven’t spent the time to fully research or attempt.

    I still haven’t set up an automatic mount point for my shared NTFS drive to load on boot, both because I don’t have a good grasp on the fstab and because Windows does a chkdisk every time I mount it in Linux. Dual access storage still seems iffy as of 2025.

    I am going to keep trying, because I hate Microsoft right now more than I dislike the learning curve and limitations. Not sure if that is enough to make this the year of the Linux desktop though.

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        There’s the rub. Every distro has vocal supporters and detractors, and appears simultaneously good or “dog shit”. Determining who is accurate is a crapshoot, and there apparently is no right answer. Manjaro was attractive because of built-in automatic snapshots for recovery when I inevitably break my installation. There was also previously a well reviewed gaming focused Manjaro fork, though I stuck with the main fork.

        Mint had just as vocal of detractors saying it was unstable. Same with Ubuntu and I dislike the company focus anyway. Arch is Arch, and Manjaro is an Arch fork anyway. It’s the same problem someone looking at starting One Piece or Bleach or Naruto have: there is too much and even the fans appear to hate it more than anyone else, lol.

        I don’t want to distro hop, that doesn’t interest me at my current stage. I want long term (at least a year) in between reinstallations. More self hosting is lined up for the future, so desktop is dipping my toes in the water as my server is piecemealed together.

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          Anyone who says Mint is unstable doesn’t know what they’re talking about. Mint is great if you just want to install and forget. Any rolling release distro will always require more effort to keep it running. Mint updates are largely painless.

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            I’m sure Mint is in a great place now, I enjoyed it when I tried it 8-10 years ago during my last foray into Linux. I looked at the reviews complaining about Mint as outliers, but did the same for Manjaro and PopOS and all the others. PopOS was what I was initially planning on for Nvidia support, but my 2080S started acting like it might be dying and I picked up a 7900XTX to open up my Linux options more.

            BTRFS snapshots sounded like a good “training wheel” for easy restoration after I inevitably break something, which was a selling point for Manjaro. Rolling release is also both a plus and a minus. It is easy to get choice paralysis with trying to jump into Linux, especially if you don’t want to do a bunch of initial distro hopping to feel out the different options.

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    7 days ago

    Linux would be cool but the games I primarily play ate only on windows and doesn’t play well in VMs, and dual booting just isn’t worth the hassle.

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      Chicken and egg. Can’t have the gamers without games and games without the gamers. Valve and the steam deck might have changed that. Even if small, if that portion of 0.0x percent of the market buy games and it is enough to offset the developing costs to port the game, companies will do it since it will make business sense.

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      what’s “ate”? edit: oh it’s just a type for “are” isn’t it

      i would recommend getting an extra ssd, installing a beginner friendly distro (mint or pop for instance) and just boot it up occasionally, see what works, what doesn’t. i got into linux like this, gradually, over years

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        Oh I didn’t even see that typo.

        But yeah I’ve tried this and I just found my self booting less and less into Linux, to me it made more sense to just keep my PC on once I’m done playing, or alt tab out and work on other stuff with the game running in the background.

        However this old MMO is getting a unreal update sometime in the next few years so I’ll probably give it a try again and see if it’s able to run once that comes around.

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          idk which mmo it is but i would assume an older engine runs more reliably on linux than a new one

          actually, for me, trying and failing to run star wars republic commando a few years ago on win 10 was what pushed me to really look into gaming on linux, and after installing it via steam, enabling steam play, i just clicked play and it ran great, i was shocked
          and you can add any windows executable to steam (although it’s a bit janky), enable compatibility, and most of the times, stuff just runs
          heroic launcher also is great, but a bit more complicated

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    Remember folks, it doesn’t have to be the year, it only has to be your year.

    Mine was about 19 years ago. I’m no genius, and I haven’t regretted it once. Linux has come a long way since then, while windows is deep in the enshittification trenches now, and has been for years. Your YOTLD can start today if you want it to. Tired of being actively abused by your OS? We’ve been here all along.

    And if you are happy where you are, that’s fine too.

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    They thought it was a great idea to remove the feature to unlock the taskbar and move it to the top or side of your screen in windows 11. I don’t care if it was a design choice, it was a fucking stupid one.

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      This right here drove me to dual boot Manjaro. I can’t be the only person who has stacked monitors instead of side-by-side monitors. The UI is an abomination and the telemetry even moreso.

      Linux is not turn key, and as a significantly PC gaming user it has limitations. I still have not set up modding yet, and whether Vortex mod manager will work or not is still unclear. I can’t get more than 60Hz out of my monitor on HDMI, which is required if I want 175Hz and 10bit color due to DisplayPort 1.4 limitations. Sleep causes my motherboard to permanently display a “CPU unknown” QLED Code. Instructions on simple tasks like creating a permanent drive mount at boot are confusing because there are steps that seem to be just assumed by everyone writing them. Etc.

      I am working my way through these, but still find myself in Windows 11 most of the time because unfortunately it just works. Software is natively written for it, there is no searching for how to get peripherals or programs to work. I say this as a lifelong tech nerd who started on Windows 3.1 and DOS, and who’s job involves working with Linux based equipment. This shouldn’t be as hard as it has been to transition, but it is.

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        Honestly your situation is kind of a worst case scenario.

        At this point Linux works really well if all you want to do is browse the web and play (single player) games.

        It also works pretty well if you’re an expert who understands the system in and out and can comfortably edit any config file on their drive to achieve what they want.

        But if you’re a Windows power user whose used to being able to set up all kinds of niche functionality its a rough experience when all of your knowledge is now suddenly useless and there’s a different set of things that are easy or hard to do.

        Its actually kind of a similar experience going the other way. For example there are some things that Linux users are used to being able to script that can’t really be accomplished on Windows except via autohotkey, which from a Linux user’s perspective just seems incredibly dumb.

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          You’re absolutely right, I feel almost as bad attempting to use Mac as I do Linux but it is a less powerful OS and I just accept there are things I can’t do. Plus it IS designed to be idiot proof.

          For Linux, I run into the problem that there is a floor of knowledge assumed in every tutorial. Auto mount my secondary NTFS drive at boot? Just do XYZ in fstab. Don’t know where fstab is and where to make that entry? You’re SOL. I am comfortable in command line to an extent, but it’s been a long time since I dailied DOS, honestly don’t spend a lot of time in PowerShell, and networking equipment is a completely different beast.

          Microsoft may suck, but I can usually find my way through a script or formula or something with their knowledgebase. My skill set doesn’t translate well, and I am finding it harder to learn than I probably should. I probably need to take an introductory Linux course.

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      I can’t believe this is still impossible. Surely engineers at Microsoft are suffering from this too? But I guess they really want to push the search bar and ai features that don’t fit on a vertical taskbar.

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    I have mint running on my laptop now.

    Pro tip for anyone who wants to try Linux and maybe attempt to set up dual boot with Windows:

    TURN OFF BITLOCKER ENCRYPTION IN WINDOWS FIRST.

    IF you don’t, here’s what happened to me:

    Mint live USB instance booted easily at first. I started the install process and selected dual boot. Mint setup then proceeded to prompt me to enroll a MACHINE OWNER KEY… And then realized that bitlocker encryption would prevent it from setting up dual boot.

    It said, to paraphrase, “exit mint setup, log back into Windows, disable bitlocker, then you can come back and install”

    Well that was a fucking lie because YOU CANNOT GET BACK INTO MINT!

    WHY? Because mint FORGOT the MOK!

    When you try to get back into mint from the boot selection menu, it says

    Something has gone seriously wrong: import_mok_state() failed: Not Found

    the upshot is that you computer will never let mint live USB session ever boot again UNLESS you disable secure boot in BIOS and rename grub to mmx64.efi in the ISO image.

    And if you DO those things chances are mint will never present you with the option to detect and set up dual boot with you extant windows instance ever again.

    I went ahead and nuked my windows 11 instance on my laptop because it was being a bitch and clearly was never going to be a good neighbor to mint. I have no major regrets because mint is nice and I like it. It just didn’t turn out how I would’ve ideally intended. But one way or another Windows 11 HAD TO GO. So, in the broad sense, I wanted to switch to mint… And I have! All good.

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    Can we stop with this? It was an over hyped slogan and we can give it a rest. People are slowly switching to Linux and that’s good enough

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      The slogan is a complete meme at this point. A meme that indicates it’s the year of the linux desktop!

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        Yeah, it just comes off sarcastic to me, which apparently means people think Linux is not popular enough to talk about or something. I don’t know, it just rubs me the wrong way.

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            I’ll have you know I’m completely serious and not poking fun at myself when I mention I use Arch, BTW!

            I think the year of Linux memes are fun. :D

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            You can, but Linux needs good press, and many would see this “joke” as another reason to avoid the whole ecosystem.

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          I guess the hope is that a large amount of people will suddenly switch to Linux, maybe because of social media popularity, a breaking windows change, or maybe a popular computer manufacturer shipping only Linux by default.

          But even if that does happen, I would think it would result in an increased adoption rate, not everyone switching to Linux over the course of a year.