• Cocopanda@futurology.today
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    7 days ago

    When I saw this title. I thought another YouTube hardware advocate turned their back on Louis and started an anti-consumer group to fight off policy debate that Louis does. My brain is wild.

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    It’s funny how far ahead 3d printers are in terms of consumer experience, everything is open, everything works and the tech is like 300 times more complex.

    2D printer companies should be shamed to death.

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      Over time as 3D printers go from tinkerer’s toy to household staple, I’d expect them to become more locked down and anti-consumer.

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        Bambu is working on it already — can’t print unless you’re connected to the internet and send your files through their server, can’t connect to the printer with other slicers besides their slicer.

        They had to walk that back some; there is now a “developer mode” where old standard functionality is still exposed, but they’re clearly working as hard as they can to turn it shitty.

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          Makerbot after the Stratasys buyout.

          There were a bunch of companies that tried right after the FDM patents expired in 2009. Most of them were completely forgotten or ignored because they were closed source (and more importantly closed material) companies and never got very far off the starting blocks.

          Bamboo learned from them and decided to pull the rug out after getting a foothold with finally selling decent prebuilt hardware for less than a fortune (see Ultimaker before buying out MakerBot at least).

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        They would have to become sci-fi level capable before they would be considered household staple items.

    • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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      Has anyone figured out how to 3d print a 2d printer yet?

      Edit: actually, scratch that entirely. How difficult do you suppose it would be to create an aftermarket non-malicious logic board to drive the hardware in lieu of the malicious OEM board? After all, it’s not the cartridges refusing to print.

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        8 days ago

        There is a piece of software which will take a word document and convert it into an embossed 3D print file. So you could always just skip the middleman and 3D print yourself a plaque version of your document instead.

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      It’s not that hard to convert a cheap 3D printer into a pen plotter is you want to do some 2D printing.

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      Idk if the tech for 3d printers is really more complex. All of the parts are readily available, basically nothing needs to be specially made except the hot end (one single metal part)

      The consumer experience for 2d printers worse IMO but that’s probably because I’m stuck on Windows with its terrible printing system

  • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
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    I no longer have any corporate relationships that aren’t either apprehensive, strained, or downright antagonistic.

    It’s us versus them now and they’ve give their last shits. It’s feeling like every company is a cable company now.

    • 𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬@lemmy.ml
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      Always has been like that.

      Not one single corporation is your friend or wants to be. All they want is your money. No exceptions.

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        Companies were never our friends, but it used to be the case that companies sold products. They sold a product and you got to use it and that was the end of it.

        Now instead, thanks largely to the Internet, companies barely care about ‘product’ at all and instead are all trying to get in on that gravy train of monetised data slurping, subscription models, DRM on every consumable, firmware updates that change the terms on you after the fact, and so on. Every electronic thing in your home is now super hostile to you.

        TVs, printers, fridges. These products used to be just products, but now they are trojan horses.

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          This shift in business model also means a drop in customer service. They used to sell you a product and stand behind it because eventually they wanted you to choose them when you needed a new or different product. Now that they have you roped in via a sort of forced dependency, they don’t have to pretend to be nice to you even.

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            Exactly. The way to make money pre-Internet was “generate repeat business” and the way to do that was to create a product and service the customer was happy with.

            The way to make money now is to get the customer trapped, then pump them as hard as possible.

          • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml
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            The last step is to put us all in prison and mandate we purchase their product (produced in the prison) from them while earning 69 cents an hour.

    • PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world
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      You actually can’t sell third-party printers legally, because all printers will include an ink fingerprint which can be traced back to that specific printer. So if someone prints a ransom note or counterfeits cash with it, the FBI will be knocking on their door by the end of the day.

      There’s literally a certification process to be allowed to sell printers, and one of the biggest criteria for that certification is agreeing to maintain that fingerprint database. One of the other big criteria is that the printer needs to be able to recognize and refuse to print images of cash, to prevent counterfeiting. If you try to print an image of a dollar bill, the printer’s firmware will refuse to continue the print job. The issue is that this certification process also ensures there’s a de facto near duopoly on printers, which leads to BS like HP making it increasingly difficult to use affordable ink. They can be blatantly anti-consumer, because they’re protected from any competition.

      There’s a reason HP hasn’t already been priced out by some cheap Chinese competitor who is able to undercut the competition. And it’s not because of the difficulty in manufacturing or the price of components. It’s because no other companies are allowed to sell printers.

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        Inside the US, sure. That just means you don’t get the cool FOSS printer.

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        We have great examples of things sold as parts or kits to be assembled

        Take handguns as an example. If a murder weapon can be assembled from parts with only the frame 3d printed, and avoid similar laws for traceability, surely a printer is an easier task

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        May I have the legal text, of any country, requiring a certification to sell any printers, or have EURion contellation dection implemented, or legally required to implement tracking dots?

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        You actually can’t sell third-party printers legally, because all printers will include an ink fingerprint which can be traced back to that specific printer.

        All color printers.

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    Now i had to put on the in-ears, hook up to phone to… listen to a guy talking. -_-

    Short summary: after he got a firmware update, the MFC 3750 of Louis Rossman prints in worse quality with aftermarket ink.

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    O, damnit. Not the last bastion of hope!

    Edit: 100% serious. Like Rossmann, Brother was the go-to brand.

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    Okay, so after reading this, they’re not specifically degrading print quality, they’re just making you do the alignment manually. This is probably legal, but still scummy.