Hello everyone! I know that Linux GUI advanced in last few years but we still lack some good system configuration tools for advanced users or sysadmins. What utilities you miss on Linux? And is there any normal third party alternatives?

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    23 hours ago

    7-Zip,on windows it was powerful and i loved it there is a port p7zip but it has not been updated since 2016.

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    IrfanView. Nothing comes even close. I would probably move to Linux if not for that.

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      Irfanview!

      It’s FAST, it’s SMALL, it’s PURE POWERRR

      I never understood why there isn’t anything even remotely close to it in Linux. Kde has Gwenview which is awful slow, bloated yet barely has any features at all.

      There is a way to run it through wine but that is awful. Cane e start a GoFundMe for the dev to make a Linux KDE release with Deb and rpm files? I’ll happily contribute.

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      For real! Every time I spend real periods of time with Linux (and a random year with a MacBook Pro a friend wanted to get rid of). It always hits a point where I need to view images and can’t find anything that matches IrfanView. I have tried XnView and it is way too much with regards to the UI and features I don’t need. The most frustrating thing (and this applies to most others I tried) is handling going through a folder of images that are different resolutions. IrfanView has the option to both scale the program’s window based around the image size, and also be set to scale images if the are larger than my display resolution.

      It is a very weird combination of those two things that drives me nuts. There are settings in XnView that kind of work but break. Like it might adjust the image that is large, but then the program’s UI will not shrink to fit a small image (the window will just stay large and have large black borders). Or it will shrink the window to the width of a large image, but not scale and the height will still require scrolling up and down to see all of it. The funny part is that I don’t even look at my saved images all the time. But shit is like a hard slam on the breaks at high speed.

      I did end up just dealing with the kind of weird clunkyness of running it via WINE while on the Mac as it was my only PC at the time. Which was still better than not having it for my use-case. Just weird how it has been the only image viewer (with mid-level editing options) that has “felt” correct ever since I first tried it out over like 17 years ago.

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      1 day ago

      I use csf which isn’t GUI, text only, but the configuration is so straightforward and simple that it’s been my default for years now on server and desktop

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        1 day ago

        Thanks. I will try all the suggested options and see which one is more convenient. :)

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      2 days ago

      You should try gufw. Great for simple setups! For more complicated ones you could use opensnitch.

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        1 day ago

        Thanks. I will try all the suggested options and see which one is more convenient. :)

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    2 days ago

    The only thing I miss from Windows is Voicemeeter. God, I loved that thing. I miss it so much.

    Handling the audio and adding what were once simple things like noise supression has been a really really shit experience.

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    I generally don’t miss anything graphical, once I learn how to do something from the cli I rarely feel the need to do it graphically anymore as it’s usually a lot slower

    The obvious one would be Photoshop and paint.net of course but krita does the trick

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      3 days ago

      I maybe need to correct my post. I am talking about system utilities like Device Manager or something else.

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        Why would I want gui for those things? CLI is often a better interface. Being able to grep lsusb rather than scanning a gui for an entry is much better. It’s easier to pipe to an email as well. Screenshots don’t allow copy/paste…

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          As a newcomer to CLIs, GUI are great because you don’t need to know what you’re looking for. I can just open the devices window, and they’re all there, with most of the extra hardware stuff that’s not actually a real device already cleaned out.

          To do the same with a CLI would take me 10 minutes of looking up what the hardware commands are, 5 minutes figuring out flags, and 30 minutes researching entries to see if they’re important. Even just a collapsible list would make that last step so much easier. And no, I can’t grep for what I need, because I don’t know what I need, I just know something in there is important with a vague idea of what it might look like.

          Once I figure that all out for one thing, the best I can do is write that to a notes file so I don’t need to search so far next time, but there’s a good chance that I’ll need a different combination of commands next time anyway.

          Not hating on CLIs, just wishing I could figure out how to use them faster.

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            23 hours ago

            Another really helpful tool is to use the fish shell instead of bash. It has tons of useful features, but my favorite is by far the autocomplete. It parses man pages to provide suggestions for flags, subcommands, even passed arguments, and each item in the results list has a description, and it’s all searchable by hitting shift+tab.

            fish autocomplete subcommands

            fish autocomplete git

            That’s what leveled up my cli game from 0-100. It’s a massive difference in usability and discoverability. And unlike things like nushell, it’s close enough to bash that you won’t feel confused if you have to use bash instead.

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            apropos - command to list relevant commands tldr [command] - shows the most commonly used flags/options for that program

            apropos comes installed by default (on debian at least), tldr needs to be installed with your package manager

            As someone who cannot even remember tar flags (inser xkcd here), tldr is very helpful

            Your 45 mins becomes 5 mins now. Hope that helps

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    3 days ago

    Maybe tangential but this reminded me of how much I hate setting up systemd timers/services. I refuse to accept that creating two files in two different directories and searching online for the default timer and service templates is an okay workflow over simply throwing a cron expression next to the command you want to run and being done with it. Is there really no way we can have a crontab-equivalent that virtually converts into a systemd backend when you don’t need the extra power? I feel like an old person that can’t accept change but it’s been a decade and I’m still angry.

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      This is a configuration declaration abstraction issue. Systemd timers and services are more like primitives.

      In NixOS, we have an abstraction that allows simple declaration of a service and timer that runs some script.

      As an example, I use this to export my paperless for backup daily in a way that is safe (paperless itself cannot run during that time, guaranteed by systemd) and simple:

      https://github.com/Atemu/nixos-config/blob/ca0d39eb98c62424208487f973573478268048b4/modules/paperless/module.nix#L59-L95

      (Even without NixOS domain knowledge you should be able to follow what’s going on here.)

      All that’s needed in order to cause a systemd timer to be created for this service is to declare the startAt = "daily"; at the bottom.

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    3 days ago

    Given that windows administration is powershell these days they kind of are similar.

    Windows is missing so much in their guis abilities (like copy text) that I wonder what there is you are missing.

    Edit: Although this is not an admin function, one thing that bothers me about windows, A LOT is that the file explorer does not show free space while I am in the current directory. Dolphin will do it even for SMB shares. Also you can click the drop down and examine all drives right there instead of have to back to the left and ruining your view in explorer. And don’t get me started about how you can’t split views in Windows explorer. This is just one everyday task where windows GUI is lacking in features even though it is not an admin tool.

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    3 days ago

    One thing I kind of miss is autohotkeys on windows. It was relatively easy to do things like set keyboard keys to act as mouse keys. I did that once when I was getting over tendonitis.

    These days I have a keyboard with mouse keys on it and a trackball also with mouse keys. I can use the middle button on the trackball and scroll with it, but I can’t use the middle button on the keyboard and scroll with the trackball, which would be more ergonomic for me. Haven’t figured that one out yet.

    That said, I mostly don’t miss GUI stuff. I use a tiling window manager and command line utilities to do most things on my system. Its kind of primitive I guess, but the benefit is it works exactly the same on remote systems, headless servers, etc.

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    3 days ago

    I have Emacs, and I have my NixOS configuration. That’s all the GUI system configuration I need.

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    HWMonitor / cpuID / cpuz. One of the frustrating things is not having good driver level support for certain mbs with system monitoring utilities, so you can’t see fans and some cpu stats (like per ccd temps etc on Ryzen processors). Specifically things like it87 boards

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        2 days ago

        I’ll check this out, thanks! I really just need to figure out how to build in the driver level stuff for my chipset. Even this I think just pulls from lm-sensors which needs the low level drivers to populate the appropriate files to read from.

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    I’ve recently gotten into using cockpit. I just wish it was as expansive as openSUSE’s yast.

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      What is your DE? On KDE Plasma Wayland you can just use kscreen-doctor output.HDMI-A-1.scale.2 to set it to 200%

      And it seem like CLI not GUI issue :)

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        Debian + GNOME. I’m extremely new to Linux so excuse my ignorance. I searched around the topic a while finding some commands that didn’t work and others having the same issue. If you know different that would be much appreciated!

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      3 days ago

      One of my favorite things about Gnome is that almost anything can be customized via CLI with dconf or gsettings. Which is great until you encounter one of the few things you can’t customize, like displays.

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    Well KDE had this awesome process management tool, I think it was called System Monitor or something. You could tune process priorities with IO and CPU. They deprecated the tool though, I think because nobody wanted to port it to QT6

    EDIT: It’s not System Monitor. I can’t recall the name, but there used to be an app that let you set niceness / priorities of your processes.

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      System Monitor is very much still alive, and I’m pretty sure it is updated to Qt6. I was using it only yesterday on Plasma 6…

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        You’re right. I can’t recall the other utility’s name. System Monitor is fantastic, but I just wish I could set the niceness and all that like you could on the old utility.

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    3 days ago

    I personally would like a systemd gui. There have been several attempts in the past, but none is maintained.

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      On openSUSE, I’ve apparently got at least this thing for looking at SystemD services:

      Allows viewing the services for the different boot targets, as well as the service files. You can also start/stop services or change their start mode (on boot vs manual).

      Well, and there’s a JournalD viewer with filtering:

      Not the most developed GUIs, but…

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      SystemD is far too much of a poorly thought through mess to have anything like a sane GUI configuration, it doesn’t even have a sane textfile based configuration. We’re going to have to wait fir SystemD to crumble under it’s own weight and be replaced with multiple, simple, cleanly designed components before we have any hope of a sane config again. Sort of like we used to have before a certain someone/some company (depending on how conspiratorial you’re feeling) decided to come along and muck it all up.

      /rant

      Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk Rant. You may gather I dislike SystemD quite a lot.

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        3 days ago

        For anyone else reading along: This person is talking out of their ass.