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I know a great loophole for avoiding setting up a Microsoft account: don’t use this steaming pile of shit in the first place.
I upgraded my win10 steam pc to bazzite and the Linux driver for my old R9 380 graphics card actually supports a newer vulkan version than the win10 one, games are running great so far. I don’t do insane gaming obviously but I think for older games it’s a no brainer upgrade
Unfortunately, Bazzite doesn’t work well on my devices otherwise I would. Waiting for a full SteamOS release to get better support.
Most Lemmy users:
Jokes on them, my loophole has been linux since 2006.
Windows 10 is creating a loophole that lets me skip installing Windows 11.
I could never understand why people are so against MS account. There’s a similar requirement to use products from Apple and Google and everyone is ok with that.
everyone is ok with that
no they are not
Nope.
Yep.
You can install Android without any Google account. And install alternative stores. Similarly, you do not need AppleID to install MacOS. I believe this is the same for iOS.
Technically you can, but then your phone is pretty useless.
GrapheneOS is literally better than stock android.
I could never understand why microsoft is so against local user account. There’s a similar freedom from corporate fuckery when using Linux and everyone is ok with that.
Because normal users don’t need a local account. If you want one - use the enterprise edition of Windows.
You don’t need to use an Apple account with Mac computers, and it doesn’t even try very hard to convince you to either
But most of the features you’re paying for won’t work.
Not really sure what this means. I’m not really aware of anything I’m missing out on. If you don’t want to use their cloud storage (which you have to pay extra for) there’s no need to have an apple account. All the apps I use work fine locally
It’s the tracking vs utility conundrum. At the start people kind of knew that Google was gathering their information in return for free services like Gmail etc. And those services were useful/didn’t show significant drawbacks etc.
But with Microsoft (who historically have allowed local accounts since the start and have comparatively only recently required or pushed for a linked account), the detriments are evident to people who use their computers for more than just surfing the web and watching Netflix or Tik Tok. It rubs them the wrong way when they have to connect a computer to the Internet to even set it up.
Some people don’t live in a place where internet is a standard. Others don’t necessarily want to set up a computer for themselves but for their small business or their aging grandma or for their kid (who can’t legally sign up for anything but a child’s account and that’s significantly locked down in ways that maybe the adult doesn’t want to deal with).
Some people work in fields where they have a different threat model and don’t want Microsoft or other companies siphoning up their private data. Some of them are still forced to use Microsoft products because of work etc.
The thing is though, people should have the choice when they are buying a product that will belong to them about what that product does and how it functions. And the vast majority of people who do want that choice are against this measure and measures like it.
On iOS, apple barely shoves their bloatware down your throat. Their methodology is the opposite actually. Simplistic and debloated, for the most part. Google doesnt force you into anything either. There are alternative software that you can use.
With windows the only alternative is Linux, but a small fraction of people know about let alone use Linux so thats not really in the conversation.
Windows wants to force you to make an account/log in with one which cant be done offline unless you do some commandline workarounds in win11. The issue is, this is a PC. Not an iPhone. Not a Samsung. It is your own dedicated hardware that you should be able to use as you please without being forced into an online-only system that forces copilot down your throat.
Your pc isnt “a Microsoft computer”, its a computer that happens to run an operating system made by Microsoft.
iOS IS the bloatware.
so is Windows
This guy just wants attention.
I think so too. I just checked his profile, and it’s riddled with overly controversial opinions, to ridiculous extents.
No.
Create throwaway account that will never be used except for Windows 11 install and go on with your day, tada!
Or grow some self-respect and stop using shit from companies that insist on having an adversarial relationship with you.
Some people can’t use an alternative OS, in which case, my tip applies.
Some people think they can’t use an alternative OS, but they’re wrong.
Some people need to use certain programs for work that just don’t exist on Linux, some people play games with anti cheat that will require developer support in order to work on Linux (which might never happen). Hell, Libre Office is nice and all but if you’re dealing with someone who uses Microsoft Office and it’s a professional setting you don’t have a choice, you need to use Microsoft Office because although you can save files in the right format, when they reach their destination the formatting will probably be completely fucked.
I’m so tired of Linux users acting like they know better than others what their needs are.
I understand where you’re coming from, but there are some flaws with your reasoning:
- About Kernel anti-cheats: if you wish, you can dual-boot Windows and any GNU+Linux distro, without any issues.
- The LibreOffice thing: there is OnlyOffice, and even M$ Office has Open Document format compatibility.
Dual boot: and we still come back to my tip being useful
Office: I look at my job and most of our tools are Excel based programs, you can’t use Libre Office or other alternatives to open an Excel sheet full of macros and thousands of lines of code and expect it to work
None of those are good enough excuses to jettison your self-respect and allow yourself to be milked like cattle.
Oh so I should quit my job because I need to use Excel because our tools are Excel based programs, that’s what you’re saying?
