• MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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    The only thing left is for some bootlicker to wack him in jail and claim it’s suicide, and Luigi will be more famous than Harambe.

    I’d argue that he already is. It would just elevate him from legend to marter.

    Is this how the bell riots start? I hope so, I’m tired of waiting.

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    id rather people focus on the lessons learned.

    as long as this puts fear back into the burgeoise i aint complaining too much though.

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    Mangione has tapped into something most Americans share: a deep hatred of our health insurance system and of the profiteers who seem so indifferent to our suffering and death. He has still not been mentioned by Donald Trump, who must realize that Mangione’s fandom has no political boundaries.

    Wow even DT can’t touch this

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    I mean could also go out like the guy who everyone would remember, who burned himself for some cause and everyone just forgot about him. Man, what a thing

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        DDD

        444

        Out of curiosity I looked up “444” and there’s a bunch of links saying it means a guardian angel. Appropriate?

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          4 is avoided in Chinese and Japanese. Although contextually its not too far off the mark in this case.

          in JP, 4 sounds like ‘shi’, meaning death. 43 sounds like the word for ‘stillbirth’. (‘shi’ also means particle, or also emoticon) In China, 4 = ‘death’, 14 = ‘must die’, 24 = ‘easy to die’

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            Yes, but for reasons I don’t remember at the moment, “444” is considered joyful laughter, not danger. Someone correct me if I’m wrong.

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              So we have guardian angel, “death”, and “joyful laughter” associated with 444, that all fits.

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          It sounds like what you’re reading is an “angle number.” I’m not sure if that’s what’s referenced above.

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    the bullet etchings alone make it a work of art. He picked out the absolute most unloved plutocrat in america. Its very much a masterwork execution at a time when everybody wanted a reprieve from the trump media circus.

    Timing: 10/10

    Execution: 9/10

    Target 10/10

    Style: 10/10

    We live in a country this happens every day I would take a CEO death over a Sandy Hook every time. I wish shootings weren’t as common but it is what it is.

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      Personally I would appreciate the irony of school shooters instead going after gun manufacturer executives. I like my justice delivered ironically.

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      If we were the principled society we pretend to others that we are, we would prefer 100 ceos to 1 Sandy Hook. CEO’s would be all for it as well.
      But capitalism doesnt breed a lot of impulses to sacrifice for the greater good. “eff those peasants” is practically explicitely baked into it.

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      the absolute most unloved plutocrat in america.

      Too bad that’s not trump :(

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        With my limited view from Germany, thank God that it is not Trump. Presidents come and go, Democrats and Republicans swap places every now and then, but at the end, the US stays an oligarchy. By killing Trump you don’t change much, you might create a public outrage, but it’s like popping a pimple without addressing the acne. It might lead to an even bigger divide within the working class - those who were fooled into voting for Trump vs Democrats vs disappointed, disillusioned Democrats. One of the problems of the election was that not enough left leaning people saw the Democrats as much different from the Republicans, and they are right. Killing a politician would just distract from the problem even more. Just think of how much momentum Trump (and his movement) gained from the assassination attempt.

        Here, for once in months, when we see tiktoks or other clips from the public, we cannot even tell immediately where they lean politically - we just see that everyone is fed up with the same crap. Now both left and right, united, experience how the media lies to them and tells a skewed narrative. This is amazing. I sincerely hope it will not die, I hope this will grow and continue to spread like a cancer through society.

        It is sad that it took the murder of a person and a young man’s freedom for this.

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          No no, I didn’t say I wish for him to be shot - that’s for separate discussion - I just wish he was the most unloved. Daydreaming…

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            The key is to publicly wish for his death in a way that no person could actually carry out. Then it’s not a death threat. Wish for him to get cancer. Wish for him to have a heart attack. Wish for him to die from auto-erotic asphyxiation. Wish for him to be struck by lightning. Wish for a giant sinkhole to open up directly beneath his feet, swallow him whole, and close up behind him, as if Hell itself reached up to finally claim him, the Devil finally collecting on some contract signed long ago.

            It’s not a death threat if you ask God or the Devil to do the dirty work for you!

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        I don’t know. Trump is special. I’m hoping more "divine smiting’ for him. For a man that so seems to have the Devil’s charisma behind him, what more fitting end could there be than to die by lightning strike?

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        Don’t give up hope. He’s had 3 attempts already, hoping #4 is a better shot

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    This will probably be taken down, but psychology is what I do so here it is. This is not endorsement this is an explanation as to why there’s different sentiment for this shooting.

    This was stated in Trevor Noah’s latest podcast in open discussion. Josh Johnson raises the point. Most gun violence stories on the news, people personally feel threatened. Outraged that they or theirs could be at a music festival, a movie, at school. Most assholes with a gun are killing innocent people, never mind all the other bits. And most are clearly a little “crazy.”

    This was targeted, killer on killer, no collateral (death/injury) damage. The CEO had kids that’s the collateral damage. There’s even a lady with coffee who walks on scene then nopes out unharmed.

    This isn’t endorsement. This WHY the public as a whole doesn’t seem to mind. The guy who died killed thousands. That solves the innocent part. The killer doesn’t feel threatening to any of us. Because he’s not. That solves the threat. As for sanity, gun arguments aside, the manifesto isn’t unhinged.

    And so we find ourselves in an unusual space. Understandably so. This is new.

    No I didn’t read the article.

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      Sure. Can you explain why this guy gets charged with terrorism, but school shooters and Jan 6ers don’t?

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      Having a wife and kids is not a free pass, and is no ethical shield. Fight me. Little Jimmy can cry about it in his nepo baby Ferrari.

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      The CEO had kids that’s the collateral damage.

      Given his falling out with his ex-wife and penchant for alcoholism, they’re arguably better off without him, assuming he wasn’t already a deadbeat dad.

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      As for sanity, gun arguments aside, the manifesto isn’t unhinged.

      Just curious, what do you mean by “gun arguments aside”?

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        I’m a gun owner. There is a subset of people who think that alone makes you unhinged as a human being.

        Luigi is just crazy enough to do what he did (allegedly). Probably not even a gun owner beyond an engineer guy makes this tool/thing on his printer and then learns how to become proficient using that tool/thing. I don’t think Luigi was LARPing training exercises with an AK, with friends, in the northern MI woods. I think he probably approached it the same way the rest of us would approach learning Linux for our next PC build.

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          I see, thanks for the clarification! I thought you were referring to the actual manifesto, and I was going to point out that the supposed real one didn’t mention guns at all, but if I recall correctly the fake one did. So never mind me.

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            Shit, now I’m wondering. I’m talking about the pseudo apologetic one that talks about printing the gun. Not being the best person to decide this, etc.

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    Most definitely, he isn’t the unibomber largely indiscriminately killing people based on some ideological manifesto, he targeted someone in charge of driving many families into bankruptcy if not outright murdering patients with denials, and targeted a problem that many know to be true. They may be trying to rewrite the legacy of the CEO, but he was not “one of the good guys”.

    Although there is some crossover to the unibomber’s manifesto, in the sense that where this would have been the breaking point in societies of the past waiting for a revolution, the new means of control and technology is being used to keep it under control, from all sides, even and specially those that abused social networks to put Trump in power. Can’t have the status quo of “[I can] stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody [but not you]” challenged.

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      Most definitely, he isn’t the unibomber largely indiscriminately killing people based on some ideological manifesto, he targeted someone in charge of driving many families into bankruptcy if not outright murdering patients with denials, and targeted a problem that many know to be true.

      By my math, Brian Robert Thompson killed 40,000 people.

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        There’s a lot of overlap.

        In recent years, around 30% of newly appointed board members in the S&P 500 have been active or retired CEOs.

        And:

        CEOs and directors with financial backgrounds constitute 59% of the incoming class of S&P 500 directors…

        Source, for whatever it’s worth. I admittedly just did a cursory Google search out of curiosity and that’s what popped up, but I had a feeling it’d be a significant percentage.

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      I wouldn’t say fixed as things are the same way as they are, but reminded us how every day we are fucked by oligarchs.

      This is a weird time as we just elected them, just look how many billionaires are in trump’s cabinet picks.

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        To fix is not the same thing as fixed. He’s done more towards fixing the problem. This said, it’s very important to reiterate, as you have, that nearly NOTHING hss still been accomplished.