• drunkenkissstyle@lemmy.world
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    Pre-orders for Nintendo Switch 2 in the U.S. will not start April 9, 2025 in order to assess the potential impact of tariffs and evolving market conditions. Nintendo will update timing at a later date. The launch date of June 5, 2025 is unchanged.

    Wonder if the price of the console and even the cartridge games will change.

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          21 days ago

          More like retailers won’t eat any of it and will take the opportunity to raise prices even more because they know consumers are expecting higher prices and they have pressure to retain or increase their margins to meet shareholder expectations.

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      21 days ago

      Cartridge games for the Switch 2 aren’t even cartridge games anymore, haven’t you heard? There’s no game on the cartridges just a passkey.

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        They just replace the code-in-a-box releases we had with gen 1 of the switch. They’re still doing the regular cartridges with the game on the card.

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          Keep telling yourself that. It’s not like you’re dealing with a greedy corporation that has spent the last several years wiping out every alternative platform for playing their older games so that you have no other way to play their titles that they keep jacking the price up on simply because they can.

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    22 days ago

    Dammm, the best part is everyone speculated that the price it’s at now was to predict and get ahead of tarrif pricing by already setting it higher. The fact that it’s not is scary.

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      I think the $450 USD was just keeping up with inflation.

      $300 in March 2017 when the switch originally launched is equivalent to almost $400 today ($392 and some change). S2 is launching at $450, if they were only expecting 15%-ish tariffs then maybe, but it should then be cheaper outside of the US if tariffs were the only reason. Electronic component prices have gone up beyond inflation growth, I think it would be easier to blame it on that.

      $80-90 games before tariffs sucks, but games have been $60 for as long as I can remember, and they’re only getting more expensive to make.

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        No, it’s one of the most expensive Nintendo consoles ever. Only beat by the NES and the SNES. Those released when prices were at all time highs for this stuff.

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    *in the USA

    Edit: apparently they’ve later come out and said Canada will be included. I dunno. I’ve stopped following.

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      I would never had imagined that in my lifetime I’d see gringos reverse-smuggling game consoles from Mexico. I guess you could smuggle them from Canada too, but Mexico has always smuggled merch from USA. We even have a term for it: “fayuca”.

      The lucky ones that live near the border can cross, shop switches 2 at non-orange prices, open them and smuggle the back as personal devices.

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        Oh, you think Canadians aren’t going to get in on tariff evasion? They 100% will.

        The tremendous irony is America was founded to evade massive tariffs, sorta… and now we’re doing it to our self.

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    21 days ago

    Everyone pissing themselves over Nintendo not putting the price in the Direct when the reason why was pretty obvious, I thought.

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    22 days ago

    This is the kind of creature comfort inconvenience that will tank this administration’s popularity. Americans are fickle and will not accept this kind of disruption to their lives.

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      22 days ago

      One can only hope, but knowing how fucking stupid my right-wing, sycophantic, fellow countrymen are I doubt much will change.

      Pretty sure everyone who voted against him already hates him though.

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        22 days ago

        I’ve been feeling like there are quite a few parallels to the Brexit mess in this past election and this administration’s policies. It took a while for the reality of Brexit to evaporate away the magical thinking; I think it’s just a matter of time before the same happens here as the cost of living shoots up as a result of these tariffs.

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          22 days ago

          Despite some similarities, the demographics in the US are just a completely different beast.

          Our Christians are insane. Fox News has poisoned the minds of potentially hundreds of millions of Americans. American exceptionalism and the lie of “the American dream” has irrevocably cooked the collective minds of essentially our entire population.

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          22 days ago

          I’m going to hold onto the spark of your optimism until I can light my own; your perspective does help and I hadn’t considered it. Thank you /gen /pos

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            The only issue is, it took years for that reality to sink into the minds of the electorate in the UK, and in the meantime the UK’s economy suffered considerably.

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          22 days ago

          That’s weird, I don’t see that anywhere but to right of the picture I have:

          Nintendo says preorders will no longer start on April 9th, but the console’s June 5th release date is unchanged.

          I wonder if it’s because I’m in Europe?
          I made a search on the page for some of the key words, and the quote you made does NOT appear for me?
          And still with the quote, it doesn’t say if it’s ONLY changed for US?

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            21 days ago

            There’s a direct quote from the company.

            According to a statement sent to The Verge by Eddie Garcia on behalf of Nintendo, it says preorders will no longer begin on April 9th:

            “Pre-orders for Nintendo Switch 2 in the U.S. will not start April 9, 2025 in order to assess the potential impact of tariffs and evolving market conditions. Nintendo will update timing at a later date. The launch date of June 5, 2025 is unchanged.”

            I’m also in Europe.

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              21 days ago

              Thanks.
              But that’s weird, now I see it immediately, it’s clearly there 2nd paragraph? Also a search finds it no problem?
              Neither were the case yesterday?

              I have no idea why it didn’t work yesterday?

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    I see a lot of people ragging on the switch and comparing it to the Steam Deck. I own both but

    I’m gonna say this: they’re not even direct competitors. They don’t offer the same experiences at all.

    The beauty of the Switch is the ease of use, modularity of control, and communal nature of it. Even if switch online sucks, playing with other switches or 8 people in the same room with certain games is unbelievably easy. The plug and play usability and every single game you can buy from the internal store just works.

    Not to mention the dock is flawless and literally easy to use. For all its problems, the switch is a surprisingly well executed idea. There’s a reason they sold hundreds of millions of them.

    Steam is catching up, but there’s still a ways to go between proton compatible games, connecting controllers, plugging into a dock without having to bend down and plug a cable etc. The Switch is simply put: easy.

    That said, Nintendo is stupid for pricing the Switch 2 out of the “no brainer” casual gamer territory.

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      As owner and early adopter of both - disagree.

      Switch is gathering dust for me and everytime I pull it out i feel like getting my steamdeck instead.

      The only exception I can think off is low profile traveling but that’s a very small niche if people.

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      Yeah, people are bitching about first party titles never going down in price, meanwhile I’m here enjoying my 300Eur indie machine.

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      Also most of Nintendo’s target audience has no idea that the Steam Deck exists. Like if a kid asks their parents for a Switch 2 the parents aren’t going to suggest the Steam Deck since they don’t know what it is. Nintendo does a shit ton of traditional advertising, the Nintendo brand has an enormous mind share among the general audience. The mind share for Steam is almost non existent outside of PC gamers.

      And many kids I know who play PC games don’t even have Steam installed. Since they only play Roblox and Fortnite on their PC. Nintendo is not competing with the Steam Deck. Their real competition is Apple and Android because of Fortnite, Roblox and TikTok.

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        That’s a bit unnecessary. I’m just pointing out people are trying to compare two things that aren’t the same.

        By that logic though, I think Nintendo has a “dumb cock” for charging as much as they are for Switch 2, so I’m not really sure what it tastes like.

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    guess i will stick with this one🥲

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          I’m sorry, i guess i took it as implied. I think that’s a fair assumption because what else could you mean by price gouging when all people have been talking about is the $90 games?

          If that’s not what you meant, then what did you mean?

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              I guess it is. But why pretend this is something new? Games have always been expensive. Ps1 games were between 40 and 60 dollars when they came out. That’s almost 110 dollars accounting for inflation on about 50 dollars then.

              The ps1 itself would cost almost 800 dollars today, accounting for inflation.

              Game prices haven’t really followed along with inflation. The 60 dollar game has been a thing since i was a child in the 90s.

              I agree that perhaps 80 dollars is a lot for a game, and maybe they should be priced lower than 1 quarter the cost of the console, but thats a different argument.

              What i am saying, again, is this is nothing new, and i think this outrage is symptomatic of “short-term memory loss”.

              I wish games were cheaper. But ragging on nintendo for charging less than they used to for n64 games (when accounting for inflation) and selling a console that plays ps5 games for less than a ps5. Is a bit strange. I also think the portability of the switch is something neither of the big 2 have. The playstation portal is half the cost of a ps5 and has to be on the same wifi as the ps5.

              I just dont see why people think this is so egregious.

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                Because it is egregious. Wow solved that for you. Write an essay somewhere else about how you love Nintendo so much.

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                  So after reading about how, when accou ting for inflation, games are actually cheaper today than they should be. Your whole counter is. “Hur dur, because no, dont write paragraphs, me not read more than 20 seconds. Hur dur” yeah good one…

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                  In fact. I dont care if you realise it or not. I dont need your validation. Im in my 30s. I’m nearly 40. i have been gaming since the sega master system. That’s fairly early doors for gaming. Its super early for console gaming. I know what i am talking about, i have been alive for long enough and paid for enough games to know what i am talking about.

                  The fact that you are just going to downvote me and offer absolutely nothing to counter my argument is enough for me to know you are EITHER too young to k ow about any of this, or being purposfully ignorant to jump on the rage wagon.

                  The fact you automatically think i am schilling for nintendo because my argument passively defends them (its actually an argument defending all game pricing) is just evidence of your immaturity.

                  Grow up, eh?

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    don’t worry good America people I’d play the games in your stead while you’re busy supporting your local brands

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      No they won’t. They’ll just ship extra units to Canada and Mexico to account for fans going across the border to buy them.

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        Nintendo should open popup stores for the first year along the US border 😅.

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    ELI5 smuggling a Switch2 over the Mexico or Canadian border. Not that I would recommend that or anything. For science. And fanfic.