Chances are BD won’t really exist in context of the 8K market. 4K/UHD BD is a niche populated by western collectors and as strange as it sounds, content pirates that never interact with the physical disc but are looking for source, untouched 4K video streams. And I don’t believe even top end BD discs can’t handle 300 GB sizes that you would need for a 2 hour 8K move in normal bitrate.
That being said, UHD BD is at around 75 mbps. So 8K would be around 300 mbps, In theory if bandwidth costs continue to decline as they have since the introduction of early broadband, you could have streaming services supporting a 300 mbps “premium” 8K stream.
Streaming services pretty much top out at 80Mbps, but more typically are around 15≃20Mbps for even 4K content, so even if they straight quadrupled the bitrate for 8K content you’d only be hitting UHD BD rates.
I don’t disagree that BD will not exist for an 8K market, but that’s because physical media is being killed.
This isn’t even getting into the actual mastered resolution of much of this content, which you’re lucky if it’s even in 4K, most stuff is still mastered in 2K.
I’ve never tried 4K streaming (don’t have the premium subscription), but 17.5 Mbps for 4K sounds like a joke. There are older 1080 sources (especially with grain) where you don’t want to go too much below 15 Mpbs on H264. Even H265 generally works better primarily on newer sources material (post 2005) and encoding high complexity older film with H265 is going to give marginal efficiency improvements relative to H264.
There isn’t a particularly good delivery mechanism for 8K, Blu-Ray tops out at UHD/4K, and streaming is so bitrate starved 8K doesn’t even matter.
Chances are BD won’t really exist in context of the 8K market. 4K/UHD BD is a niche populated by western collectors and as strange as it sounds, content pirates that never interact with the physical disc but are looking for source, untouched 4K video streams. And I don’t believe even top end BD discs can’t handle 300 GB sizes that you would need for a 2 hour 8K move in normal bitrate.
That being said, UHD BD is at around 75 mbps. So 8K would be around 300 mbps, In theory if bandwidth costs continue to decline as they have since the introduction of early broadband, you could have streaming services supporting a 300 mbps “premium” 8K stream.
Streaming services pretty much top out at 80Mbps, but more typically are around 15≃20Mbps for even 4K content, so even if they straight quadrupled the bitrate for 8K content you’d only be hitting UHD BD rates.
I don’t disagree that BD will not exist for an 8K market, but that’s because physical media is being killed.
This isn’t even getting into the actual mastered resolution of much of this content, which you’re lucky if it’s even in 4K, most stuff is still mastered in 2K.
I’ve never tried 4K streaming (don’t have the premium subscription), but 17.5 Mbps for 4K sounds like a joke. There are older 1080 sources (especially with grain) where you don’t want to go too much below 15 Mpbs on H264. Even H265 generally works better primarily on newer sources material (post 2005) and encoding high complexity older film with H265 is going to give marginal efficiency improvements relative to H264.
Maybe the new GPMI cable will help here?
Can’t do much with a cable if the source (internet or BD) doesn’t have the source material at the adequate quality to support it.