They should be legally required to flesh out a local API with the same functionality.
yet another reason why “smart” tech is stupid as fuck.
Such a fucking con.
Yep. Officially done buying anything that needs a web service to operate.
Look for the Home Assistant logo and Matter.
Back in I think 2016, Google announced that Nest thermostat owners would soon no longer have access to the Nest app because they were migrating to Google Home. Well that sack of shit app couldn’t perform half of the functions. Users complained, and we still have the Nest app that still has additional functionality to this day.
Just a Google story that came to my mind
Such a typical Google story.
They really are a trash level company.
This is your friendly reminder to use the open source Home Assistant with local-only devices. For example this beautiful Honeywell that uses Z-Wave radio to talk to Home Assistant.
You can now even buy prebuilt Home Assistant hubs straight from HA themselves.
I’ve been using a Home Assistant Yellow for about 4 years now with mostly ZigBee and Z-Wave lights, switches, thermostats and others and I’ve yet to have a system problem. It’s been invisible.
What lights if you don’t mind? I will probably get that honeywell now that Google is throwing my nest in the garbage.
Some 1100lm Hue (white), 1600lm Hue (white), and Philips Ultra Definition (high CRI) dumb bulbs on Leviton Z-Wave dimmers. DO NOT BUY 1600lm (white) Hue. They overheat and eventually stop working. The Philips dumb bulbs have a tiny bit of buzzing with these dimmers but nothing out of the ordinary.
Note that you’d need a Z-Wave radio for that thermostat. You can easily have both a ZigBee and a Z-Wave radios on the same device. You can do this with a Raspberry Pi and a couple of USB dongles, or with Home Assistant Yellow and the ZooZ GPIO Z-Wave add-on module for it. Everything I mentioned is plug and play.
Interesting. I have some hues but having issues with the bridge, might try the dimmer switches.
What Hue do you have and what are the symptoms?
I believe they are the warm white ones not sure exact model rn. When I try to add them to the Hue app they simply dont appear no matter what I do with the bridge. Maybe I can add them direct to HA or something without the bridge?
Have you tried resetting them?
Yes you can add them directly to HA with a ZigBee radio but the fact that you can’t connect them to the Hie bridgeeads me to think there might be a problem with the bulbs themselves.
Wow never heard of this! Super excited to move my shit over
This makes my decision to get Hive instead much easier. Thanks Google!
We’re ending support, that may or may not have significant security implications for you. Solve this by buying this product again!
That’s a very solid argument not to buy from them again.
Actually, I never bought from them to begin with. I bought from Nest, and then Google acquired them and started in on the enshittification right away.
I’ll never buy another Nest, we all hated it. The only thing I liked was the weather report that came up when you walked past it.
When it comes to house infrastructure we expect that it will keep working for decades. I don’t think smart tech that requires the internet is at all a good idea and why I don’t use anything that does, but there is bound to be issues with bluetooth and wifi connected devices generally if they don’t have updates and support for the coming decades.
Companies need to be thinking about the length of support more for house installed devices because the cost of the device often pales compared to the installation costs and replacing them is often a big job.
I use Drayton Wiser products. In UK it’s a direct wiring for the old boiler control.
check your utility for rebates on your replacement. i saved $75 on my ecobee.
To those who know the product, is if possible to extend the connected functionnalities with selfhosting?
You’re probably better off just getting something that connects your HVAC system to home assistant locally, and when you’ve done that it’s pretty much future proof for whatever integration you decide to use in the future. With phones and smartwatches and automations you don’t really need a physical device on your wall, really.
Agreed… some Nest competitor thermostats will function without the wifi connection.
What is a good nest outdoor and indoor camera replacement that works with home assistant ?
