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    26 days ago

    Amazon announced using drones in 2014. In pop culture, drone delivery is like an assumed common practice. Yet fucking nobody gets their packages delivered by drone. It’s been over a decade.

    These robots are vaporware. Amazon will get a stock bump and that’s the whole point.

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      26 days ago

      Yeah, humans regularly deliver stuff wrong on our street. There is no way robots will manage. I get packages for both by neighbours and they get mine more often than correct deliveries and one of my neighbours is a business.

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        25 days ago

        What makes you think you can’t have individualized instructions for harder to reach addresses? After the first failure it’s pretty trivial to go out and fix it. Google does far more work maintaining maps and directions services.

        Vs having a new delivery guy get confused every other week?

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      25 days ago

      Airspace rules are a huge factor there. I see delivery robots on the sidewalk often enough though.

      I suspect most companies are still waiting out the testing and waiting for costs to be reduced.

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    Amazon 1 year after launch: Unfortunately, the space needed for robots in the van means that the van has to return to base 5 times more often to reload with the actual packages and the extra weight of robots more than doubles the weight of the van being lugged around in the form of heavy robots. So that’s why we are having to charge more for delivery and why it is taking longer for you to get your packages. But at least we can pay fewer salaries.

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      25 days ago

      Also we don’t pay taxes but will fuck up the roads with the extra weight. Good luck driving over potholes suckers!

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    25 days ago

    I tend to disbelieve this, mainly because a humanoid robot would be overkill. Custom-purpose robots would be much cheaper to design, build and maintain, with fewer potential failure points.

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    The robot then encounters the entirely unpredictable American rural south

    staircases half busted up surrounded by weeds and gravel roads full of holes

    robots fucked with by kids who are now tying it to a tree with bungie cords for fun

    one being dragged off in the background by a dude with a welding mask on

    wageslave.exe has encountered an internal exception and must close

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    25 days ago

    everyone knows its just going to be indians in a data center in india controlling the bots.

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    25 days ago

    Amazons “genius” packing bots will throw a tiny fragile thing with a medium size heavy thing in a box 16x too big along with a shred of packing material.

    Can’t wait to have that same “genius” applied to the actual delivery itself.

    Seriously, I make maybe 5 or 6 Amazon purchases per year. I would say at least 50% of those disappoint in some way: the item was misleadingly listed, or it was damaged in shipping, or it doesn’t arrive when the promised. I really don’t find it convenient at all.

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    If i see a humanoid robot delivering a package i will throw bricks at it and then pee on it, in the way a 3 year old would during a tantrum.

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    26 days ago

    They can depreciate these assets over their useful life, because unlike your soggy flesh sack, these are capital expenses, not operating expenses.

    … For now. I’m sure there are libertarians that think you should be able to sell yourself as the depreciable asset you are.

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    24 days ago

    No they fucking aren’t. That shit would be so much more expensive than a person. Liars, and not even particularly good ones.

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      24 days ago

      I mean apparently they’re partnering with a private robotics company. The picture is an actual model of the company’s robot. Whether or not they actually end up implementing this, they’re allegedly currently training the robots.

      Presumably, if nothing else, Amazon/Bezos is probably getting some sweet federal kick backs to attempt this and further the current administration’s agenda to beat “Gyna” in the science and tech race. Except unlike Gyna, the U.S. is firing all of their scientists (which, until Jan. 2025, was one area that the U.S. had unquestionably dominated China) bc they think AI can replace them too.

      So now, they’re just handing all the resources to the kind of technocratic “elites” who are used to just purchasing their good ideas, rather than actually creating anything. This is also why they seem to genuinely believe something like Amazon humanoids is a sound investment, “durr, we don’t need people bcuz we haz robots.”

      Fun fact, just learned they are indeed going to try to replace scientists with robots too. There was a meeting about it yesterday:

      For all we know they made the futuristic robot exoskeleton, took some fancy pictures of it holding a package, and that’s all she wrote. The end result is just some rich assholes are slightly richer at the expense of the tax payer, and we should be grateful. 'Merica! 🇺🇲

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        Amazon/Bezos is probably getting some sweet federal kick backs

        I think it’s more a threat against employees. The robots can be used as scabs.

        which, until Jan. 2025, was one area that the U.S. had unquestionably dominated China

        China had more scientists and papers well before this year. And China dominates particularly in fields like maths, computer science and manufacturing.

        they are indeed going to try to replace scientists with robots

        I can actually think of a lot of uses for robots in research. And, of course, there are a lot of robots in labs already; they just don’t look like humans.

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          More scientists and data, but research quality in China has been very poor for quite some time, hence a lot of questions and concerns regarding methods, data collection, and number of retracted articles.

          The entire idea of the “China virus” and the Trump/Republicans lab leak/attack on NIH funding to EcoHealth, and their collaboration with Wuhan Institute of Virology, hinged on pointing out the lack of lab safety standards in China that wouldn’t have allowed the research to occur here.

          On the flip side, now that Trump is in power, OSTP is focused on removing regulations to science and tech bc they argue they are slowing us down in the AI race against China.

          Kinda seems like a load of BS especially considering AI data in China is very poor likely bc of the lack of regulations

          https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2024/8/9/china-wrestles-with-quantity-over-quality-in-generative-ai-patents

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            I think it would be more correct to say that quality control in Chinese science is very poor. I have seen top quality research, and I have also seen crap that should not have been published at all. But the sheer quantity of output means that the next big discovery in <insert field> will be from China.

            OSTP is focused on removing regulations to science and tech bc they argue they are slowing us down in the AI race against China.

            I don’t work on AI, but in my field I have seen the insane speed and scale of Chinese research. Now I’m from a developing country; the US can probably give better funding than we can, but I am inclined to agree that Chinese science does benefit from easier and better funding and a faster administrative process.

            AI data in China is very poor likely bc of the lack of regulations

            The big problem for AI research in China seems to be a shortage of high-end GPUs due to the trade wars. China is very strong in maths and comp sci, and they are finding workarounds, but it is still a pretty hard barrier.

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      24 days ago

      Just like when they were going to replace all their delivery drivers with drones. It’s just bullshit.

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      Yup, and people seem to frequently underestimate how ridiculously expensive running a fleet of humanoid robots would be (and don’t seem to realize how comparatively low the manual labor it’d replace is paid.)