Bill Gates and Linus Torvalds have apparently never met in person before, despite their pseudo-rivalry.

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    57 minutes ago

    Genuinely kind of surprised they only met now, one would have thought that in over 30 years they would have run into each other at some point at some conference or other.

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    Both Torvalds and Gates are nerds… Gates decided to monetize it and Torvalds decided to give it away.

    But without Microsoft’s “PC on every desktop” vision for the '90s, we may not have seen such an increased demand for server infrastructure which is all running the Linux kernel now.

    Arguably Torvalds’ strategy had a greater impact than Gates because now many of us carry his kernel in our pocket. But I think both needed each other to get where we are today.

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      But without Microsoft’s “PC on every desktop” vision for the '90s, we may not have seen such an increased demand for server infrastructure which is all running the Linux kernel now.

      Debatable, in my opinion. There were lots of other companies trying to build personal computers back in those times (IBM being the most prominent). If Microsoft had never existed (or gone about things in a different way), things would have been different, no doubt, but they would still be very important and popular devices. The business-use aspect alone had a great draw and from there, I suspect that adoption at homes, schools, etc. would still follow in a very strong way.

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      I’ve said this before here, but techy people vastly overestimate both the ability and the patience of the typical user, and it’s the reason so few people use FOSS products.

      Products from big tech aimed at private individuals are designed to be as simple to use as possible, which is why they’re so popular.

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      There’s Dave Cutler in the article. They both heard boss music and it wasn’t theirs.

      See, Dave Cutler’s level of “boss” for Unix would be Kirk McCusick or Bill Joy.

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    13 hours ago

    Bill announces a collaboration between the two, starting with an open source implementation of BOB and Clippy AI for Linux…

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    I hate to sound preachy, but this is a good example of “rivals” peacefully meeting.

    So many people I meet IRL seem conditioned to think this person they hate on the internet would be someone they’d shout at like they’re an axe murderer, in the middle of a murder. It’s the example they see. Death threats are, like, normal on Facebook or TV News or whatever they’re into, apparently.

    Again at risk of reaching… this feels like positive masculinity to me.

    And leaders acting like adults.

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    13 hours ago

    No major kernel decisions were made,” jokes Russinovich in a post on LinkedIn.

    Man, wouldn’t that be wild, though?

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    13 hours ago

    Maybe I’m wrong, but isn’t Gates retired? And I have no idea if Torvalds is still active.

    But historical photo aside, isn’t this meeting a bunch of nothing?

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      13 hours ago

      Torvalds is still very active on the Linux kernel. As far as I know, he’s in charge of it and makes major decisions about its direction.

      Bill Gates retired from Microsoft in 2008.

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        7 hours ago

        Linus still approves the changes in the kernel. His main baby for the past 15 years or so has been GIT.

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          I think he maintained git at its inception for like 6 months and then passed it off to someone else, but I could be completely mistaken.

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        That means there are highschool seniors who weren’t even alive while Bill Gates was at Microsoft. Interns might not even know who he is.

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      13 hours ago

      without checking, Gates’ wealth is probably tied up in a lot of MS stock, and he could probably walk into the office and ask the intern to get him a coffee. but yeah i think mostly retired.

      Linus is still active is maintaining the Linux kernel.

      and yes, this is fluff, not some kind of summit