• catloaf@lemm.ee
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    8 days ago

    I’ve heard they also like to disengage self-driving mode right before a collision.

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      8 days ago

      That actually sounds like a reasonable response. Driving assist means that a human is supposed to be attentive to take control. If the system detects a situation where it’s unable to make a good decision, dumping that decision on the human in control seems like the closest they have to a “fail safe” option. Of course, there should probably also be an understanding that people are stupid and will almost certainly have stopped paying attention a long time ago. So, maybe a “human take the wheel” followed by a “slam the brakes” if no input is detected in 2-3 seconds. While an emergency stop isn’t always the right choice, it probably beats leaving a several ton metal object hurtling along uncontrolled in nearly every circumstance.

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      8 days ago

      That sounds a lot more like a rumor to me… it would be extremely suspicious and would leave them open to GIGANTIC liability issues.

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        8 days ago

        In the report, the NHTSA spotlights 16 separate crashes, each involving a Tesla vehicle plowing into stopped first responders and highway maintenance vehicles. In the crashes, it claims, records show that the self-driving feature had “aborted vehicle control less than one second prior to the first impact”

        https://futurism.com/tesla-nhtsa-autopilot-report

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        It’s been well documented. It lets them say in their statistics that the owner was in control of the car during the crash

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        8 days ago

        How so? The human in the car is always ultimately responsible when using level 3 driver assists. Tesla does not have level 4/5 self-driving and therefore doesn’t have to assume any liability.

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          This right here is another fault in regulation that eventually will catch up because Especially with level three where it’s primarily the vehicle driving and the driver just gives periodic input It’s not the driver that’s in control most of the time. It’s the vehicle so therefore It should not be the driver at fault

          Honestly, I think everything up to level two should be drivers at fault because those levels require a constant driver’s input. However, level three conditional driving and higher should be considered liability of the company unless the company can prove that the autonomous control, handed control back to the driver in a human-capable manner (i.e Not within the last second like Tesla currently does)