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This is a truly WTF moment about messed up responses to X11 session removal in Gnome.

2 weeks ago I published a blogpost about the upcoming plans of GNOME 49 and the eventual removal of the X11 session. Since then, instead of looking at feedback, bugs and issues related to the topic, we all collectively had to deal with the following, and I am not exaggerating one bit:

  • Fascists and Nazis
  • Wild Conspiracy Theories that make Qanon jealous
  • “Concerned” Trolling about the Accessibility of the Wayland session
  • A culture war where Wayland is Gay, and X11 is the glorious past they stole from you

In my wildest dreams I could have never made this shit up. You all need mandatory supervised access to the Internet from now on.

  • trevor (he/they)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    794·
    6 days ago

    This probably has a lot to do with the new DOA XServer fork being “anti-DEI” (pro-discrimination). When these slimy shitweasels go out and vice signal about how bigoted they are, they congregate around it and form a new harassment campagin because they have no life.

    Sorry you’re getting harassed. I hope you can take solace in the fact that these little pissbabies lead miserable lives.

    • LiveLM@lemmy.zipEnglish
      20·
      6 days ago

      Can confirm, having my different refresh rate monitors play nice with each other is extremely homosexual.

    • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
      7·
      6 days ago

      … Does this imply that Wayland has a penis?

      Asking… For science, or something, I dunno what is going on.

    • Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee
      2·
      6 days ago

      X11 is on/under your ass?
      Maybe they were both gay all along, that’s why we enjoy their sessions so much.

  • Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    183·
    6 days ago

    I do think ditching X11 is still slightly premature. For all its more modern features, there’s still a lot that Wayland either hasn’t implemented yet or “can’t do” because of its “security model.”

  • lurch (he/him)@sh.itjust.works
    232·
    6 days ago

    It’s not like X11 will disappear immediately after that. People who need it just have to switch from Gnome to a cooler window manager 🤷

    It’s really not a big deal.

    From my experience, I guesstimate X11 will be around for another 20 years after that and maybe some hillbilly will even make a Gnome fork that still supports X11. Then there will be X12 one day 😆

    • Victor@lemmy.world
      51·
      6 days ago

      switch from Gnome to a cooler window manager 🤷

      I think that’s easier for us to say, who actually do use something cooler. But for those whose workflow is messed up by this, I understand why they’re upset. But yeah, it’s time to move into the future, for real. High time.

  • Rusty Shackleford@programming.devEnglish
    6·
    6 days ago

    I use X11 over Wayland on KDE Neon for RustDesk compatibility. The Wayland support for that application is still in Beta from what I understand.

    Are there other reasons why I should keep X11? I am on AMD Ryzen 9 5950X paired with a RTX 3090 FE on 570-open drivers, for reference.

      • underscores@lemmy.zipEnglish
        1·
        6 days ago

        I know there’s dozen ways to screen share but I mostly care about discord and discord screen sharing doesn’t work on Linux, curiously enough if you get obs to create a virtual camera of whatever you want to stream it will stream it flawlessly. Use the default way of streaming anything and it craps out

      • urandom@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        6 days ago

        I don’t know of any screen sharing issues tbh. I’ve unfortunately had to share my screen through google meet for more than a year now :(

    • pohart@programming.dev
      3·
      6 days ago

      I’m fairly sure there’s no way to do remote Wayland from Windows, yet without X11. But what do I know? I’m running ububtu 22.04 still

  • rottingleaf@lemmy.world
    17·
    5 days ago

    If only this wonderful opinion were published someplace else than blogs.gnome.org and by someone who’s not a GNOME developer who are expected to lie by now.

    X11 is not glorious past, it just makes sense.

    Of course, when you freeze it in a certain state, only doing bug fixes, you can’t utilize its modularity and extensibility to fix problems that can be fixed in an alternative with actual development happening. But it appears the solution of finally making a fork has been found.

    I welcome anyone to find fascism, nazism, conspiracy theories (if that’s about said freeze and refusal to break backwards compatibility in some things, then, well, that’s a fact visible for anyone on the web) here.

    “Concerned” Trolling about the Accessibility of the Wayland session

    So for actual complaints they just say it’s trolling and put quotes. That’s not a valid response.

    You all need mandatory supervised access to the Internet from now on.

    Maybe snowflake GNOME devs need that? I don’t use GNOME, so - won’t really feel the loss.