Spotify, the world’s leading music streaming platform, is facing intense criticism and boycott calls following CEO Daniel Ek’s announcement of a €600m ($702m) investment in Helsing, a German defence startup specialising in AI-powered combat drones and military software.
The move, announced on 17 June, has sparked widespread outrage from musicians, activists and social media users who accuse Ek of funnelling profits from music streaming into the military industry.
Many have started calling on users to cancel their subscriptions to the service.
“Finally cancelling my Spotify subscription – why am I paying for a fuckass app that works worse than it did 10 years ago, while their CEO spends all my money on technofascist military fantasies?” said one user on X.
I boycotted them a long time ago when I found out they donated to Trump’s campaign, despite being a Swedish company.
I also newly started boycotting them for the same reasons. Plus they don’t give enough to the musicians, and support AI music.
Been off Spotify since they have Rogan his platform, which contributed to Trump also.
Highly illegal.
It’s legal through a US subsidiary if the funds come from US operations. The morality is questionable though
when due process is completely ignored, then you can be pretty sure that “legal” has no meaning anymore. especially seeing as how the people who are supposed to be enforcing these “laws” are the ones who are ignoring them
Honey this is America, anything is legal if you got the money
“The land of the free”
i boycotted them when i found out they streamed drm-protected lock-in music back then, and charged us a subscription for it.
Same, took some legwork to get files for my 700-song library, but we did it. Fuck 'em.
I stopped using Spotify long ago because of their shitty business practices. Producing a product they killed support for within just a couple years without reimbursing customers and producing huge amounts of e-waste. Jacking their subscription prices twice in one year. Apparently, they also donated to Trump despite not being an American company?? That’s to say nothing of their shitty recommendation algorithm, which just plays your most played tracks over and over. Good riddance.
For those interested, I use Tidal now. I’m satisfied with, their recommendation algo is fine and the higher quality streaming is really nice but nothing I’ve used has ever been as good as Google Play Music, I found so much good music though that service and could upload whatever I was missing. Once Tidal inevitably pisses me off, I’m going to move on to self hosting.
Being able to upload to Google Play Music was such a great feature. Honestly though, maybe it’s best that they killed it when they did. That way it can live on in memory as the example of what a music streaming service should be like… instead of becoming an enshittified zombie like spotify is today.
“Finally cancelling my Spotify subscription – why am I paying for a fuckass app that works worse than it did 10 years ago, while their CEO spends all my money on technofascist military fantasies?” said one user on X.
You shouldn’t be “paying for a fuckass app that works worse than it did 10 years ago” regardless of anything an executive has done. Be less lazy and cancel subscriptions to shitty services.
Also, if a CEO doing a bad thing is a dealbreaker for them, why the fuck are they on twitter?.
Be less lazy
“Damn this sucks, I’m doing the thing”
“Hey you lazy stupid fuck, go back in time and do it sooner”
Why is the Internet like this?
Funny enough, for local downloads of video game OSTs (which I like way too much), I’ve been recently turning to Steam of all things. Often cheaper than Bandcamp and DRM-free!
Spotify CEO also donated millions to trump campaign.
Dude, you should have stopped using Spotify when they let Joe Rogan on their platform… or when they started hosting fake music.
Or because they pay artist way less than any one else, while having lower quality audio.
Helsing supplies Ukraine which is defending itself in accord with international law and the UN Charter. An attacked nation defending itself against Russian aggression. Nothing wrong with that. Basically the opposite of Russian Z-fascism.
Yeah, it seems they also didn’t mention that it’s a European defense company, not a US defense company.
Europe is investing a lot into defense now and it’s actually a good thing that they’re moving away from dependence on the US defense industrial complex.
Spotify sucks tho. But that’s a separate thing.
Clickbait article.
A lot of money being invested in Euro defense right now.
I thought we were already boycotting this shit
Always worth keeping in mind that these fuckers are selling snake oil to one another under the guise of national security.
This technology is dangerous not because it works as advertised but because it creates a vacuum of responsibility for when the very manual killing starts
Israel’s Lavender AI is a great example of this in action. It doesn’t work in any meaningful way. All it does is label casualties in a bombing run as “terrorists” after the fact.
What are the Spotify alternatives people recommend?
IIRC Tidal and Qobuz should be good alternatives
Qoobuz had the most horrific app I’ve ever experienced.
Couldn’t even search a song in a playlist bad.
I feel it’s been getting better. Like, it isn’t perfectly smooth, but I like what I get on the Frontpage way more than what I did with Spotify.
Oh yeah, I feel qobuz has the right mentality and ethos to really break into the scene and disrupt.
I loved everything about the experience, but the app was shockingly bad. Like, if it just behaved as gen 1 iTunes it would have been an improvement. Really bad at just the basic things. Just bad. And I cannot stress that enough lol.
I’ll keep an eye on them, but whoo-boy! I’ve never been scared off from an app so quickly
This is kinda funny to me because I was using Apple Music before, and I honestly feel it’s less jank.
I will say I’m still rocking my samsung a71 so, maybe the tech just want up to it… but that experience was bad. Glad it works for you though
If might also just be a testament to how jank Apple Music on Android can be. Anyway, I just hope you find a solution that works well for you.
Thanks.
I was talking to my wife this morning about this thread and the Qobuz recommendation was just what she needed to replace and cancel Spotify. She was able to import her playlists from her Spotify account and she’s been commenting for the past couple hours about how much better the audio quality is.
Tidal is cheaper and better quality, Deezer is good, too.
Qobuz is great. It’s a french company, they pay the artists well and the music is in high quality
Qobuz
This is where I’d have recommended deezer, but they shit the bed on their mobile app.
+1 for tidal
Napster, bearshare
Funkwhale
I jumped to Tidal many years ago because Spotify could not be bothered to provide high quality output. Yes, you can ear the difference, even on shitty gear.
For the stuff I could not get on either platform I started buying CDs on Discogs and ripping them to FLAC.
Edit: ear, not eat.
Apple music believe it or not. Nice selection and interface. Works on Apple devices as well as android. Has a high bitrate and supports aptx on android. Don’t think they have a native app for windows or Linux, though, so you’d have to use the web version.
Out of every company I would have never expected Spotify to be one of the ones to want that
I’m learning more and more everyday, that essentially all companies worldwide are evil. Because profit and money are what is most important to humans, I 100% want all of humanity to self-terminate and give this planet back to the few species that we didn’t already wipe out! We are a nightmare species. I fear humans more than anything else in life. We are the enemy of this planet.
Seeking profit above all else isn’t human nature. Humans have lived and still live in societies that don’t do this. The socioeconomic system that we find ourselves in currently in a large part of the world does put profit above all else. But this system is just one iteration of how we live. And even it has changed over time where it has gotten worse over the last 50 years. It too would change and likely be replaced by another in the long run. Many believe that would be some form of socialism. Or we could go largely extinct before we abandon it. A better world is possible though.
Great idea! You first, I’ll totally be right behind
It is a great idea. And perhaps you are so disturbed as to reply with this snarkyness, because deep down you know it to be true. We are the ultimate creeping Mold on this rotting ball of hot sewage. We did this to the planet. Fuck humans, we all need to go extinct.
Fuck both y’all, I don’t want to go extinct and it’s fucked up to try and get someone to die. Go touch grass both of you. The planet is going to be fine, it’s a giant rock in the middle of space, life will continue regardless of how bad we fuck it up, life exists in sulfuric lakes for fucks sake. Humans are cool as fuck, we turned rocks and metals into magical devices we can use to be edgelord douchebags on the internet.
Totally agree. Just have someone let me know when you’ve done it. Maybe we could set up a chain or something. You start, have someone that knows notify me, and then I notify the next person.
Now go on and start the change you want to see 🌠
Jokes on them, I moved to CD and love it
Got 80GB of music on my phone, tried Spotify once, it was all live versions…
Who’s calling for that boycott? Putin?
Respect for the true pacifists out there, but investing in EU-based defense industry is hardly questionable by ordinary standards.
Probably. Rashism is real.
Europe used the specter of Russia to justify it’s dive into militant fascism the last time too.
False. Western Europe increased arms spending in response to German aggression. Germany increased arms spending… well.
Germany, famously not part of Europe.
Germany increased arms spending… well.
Well what? The specter of Russia was a huge part of how Germany justified it’s fascism.
Just like now.
False.
Germany built up it’s army in preparation for attacking the rest of Europe. Adults usually know this. Sorry if I have misjudged your age.
Germany and Soviet Russia were allies and cooperated in the attack on Poland. This only fell apart when Hitler betrayed Stalin by invading the Soviet Union.
It is said that in all his life, Stalin only ever trusted one person: Adolf Hitler. When German communists conscripted into the Wehrmacht defected in the night before the attack, to bring warning to the Soviet Union, Stalin had them shot. The last supply train carrying grain for Nazi Germany crossed the border less than 2 hours before the launch.
It is said that in all his life, Stalin only ever trusted one person: Adolf Hitler.
It must be so easy being a right winger: you can just make up any old bullshit off the top of your head and apparently people will believe you.
