• Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
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    2 days ago

    Must be dumb friends. The answer is no.

    A warrant isn’t permission from the owner, or anyone inside the house.

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      But what is ownership? Ownership is the society-recognized right to the exclusive use of property. But society establishes certain limitations on those rights, including requirements to allow the lawful access by law enforcement to the property.

      You intrinsically give law enforcement permission to access property if they have a warrant. It’s just part of the bargain of land ownership.

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      What if you’re renting? What if the house was appropriated? What if there’s a land dispute? What if the land was appropriated? What if it fall under imminent domain? What if it’s split ownership? What if there’s a dissociative personality involved?

      There’s so much to be straight up dismissive as “they’re dumb friends”.

      [In the US] A warrant is permission from the representative of a governmental entity that is ultimately in charge of the land and could legally take it from you, so if theydo take it from you, do you still own it? Even if you can’t get it back? By that logic does the US own any of the land, since it was first the land of a different peoples?

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          21 hours ago

          But how does it apply? Any 4 walls and a ceiling? Does a window count as being open to invitation? If the vampire knocks down a wall is it now outdoors and they’re free to go anywhere that was formerly “inside”

          If I put a box I own in someone else’s house the vampire has access to can he not access my box while I’m in it? What about a casita style house inside a larger house, like a mother-in-law suite?

          Can anyone inside invite them? Can they have a thrall of theirs force or trick their way inside and invite the vampire in?

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        2 days ago

        Ability to seize isn’t the act of seizure nor by that definition is any land owned because most everything has been taken by force at some point.

        Renting wouldn’t change anything unless they got permission from the owner.