• snooggums@lemmy.world
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    LLMs are like a multitool, they can do lots of easy things mostly fine as long as it is not complicated and doesn’t need to be exactly right. But they are being promoted as a whole toolkit as if they are able to be used to do the same work as effectively as a hammer, power drill, table saw, vise, and wrench.

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      Exactly! LLMs are useful when used properly, and terrible when not used properly, like any other tool. Here are some things they’re great at:

      • writer’s block - get something relevant on the page to get ideas flowing
      • narrowing down keywords for an unfamiliar topic
      • getting a quick intro to an unfamiliar topic
      • looking up facts you’re having trouble remembering (i.e. you’ll know it when you see it)

      Some things it’s terrible at:

      • deep research - verify everything an LLM generated of accuracy is at all important
      • creating important documents/code
      • anything else where correctness is paramount

      I use LLMs a handful of times a week, and pretty much only when I’m stuck and need a kick in a new (hopefully right) direction.

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        • narrowing down keywords for an unfamiliar topic
        • getting a quick intro to an unfamiliar topic
        • looking up facts you’re having trouble remembering (i.e. you’ll know it when you see it)

        I used to be able to use Google and other search engines to do these things before they went to shit in the pursuit of AI integration.

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          Google search was pretty bad at each of those, even when it was good. Finding new keywords to use is especially difficult the more niche your area of search is, and I’ve spent hours trying different combinations until I found a handful of specific keywords that worked.

          Likewise, search is bad for getting a broad summary, unless someone has bothered to write it on a blog. But most information goes way too deep and you still need multiple sources to get there.

          Fact lookup is one the better uses for search, but again, I usually need to remember which source had what I wanted, whereas the LLM can usually pull it out for me.

          I use traditional search most of the time (usually DuckDuckGo), and LLMs if I think it’ll be more effective. We have some local models at work that I use, and they’re pretty helpful most of the time.

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            24 hours ago

            No search engine or AI will be great with vague descriptions of niche subjects because by definition niche subjects are too uncommon to have a common pattern of ‘close enough’.

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              Which is why I use LLMs to generate keywords for niche subjects. LLMs are pretty good at throwing out a lot of related terminology, which I can use to find the actually relevant, niche information.

              I wouldn’t use one to learn about a niche subject, but I would use one to help me get familiar w/ the domain to find better resources to learn about it.

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        I will say I’ve found LLM useful for code writing but I’m not coding anything real at work. Just bullshit like SQL queries or Excel macro scripts or Power Automate crap.

        It still fucks up but if you can read code and have a feel for it you can walk it where it needs to be (and see where it screwed up)

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          Exactly. Vibe coding is bad, but generating code for something you don’t touch often but can absolutely understand is totally fine. I’ve used it to generate SQL queries for relatively odd cases, such as CTEs for improving performance for large queries with common sub-queries. I always forget the syntax since I only do it like once/year, and LLMs are great at generating something reasonable that I can tweak for my tables.

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            I always forget the syntax

            Me with literally everything code I touch always and forever.

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      Because the tech industry hasn’t had a real hit of it’s favorite poison “private equity” in too long.

      The industry has played the same playbook since at least 2006. Likely before, but that’s when I personally stated seeing it. My take is that they got addicted to the dotcom bubble and decided they can and should recreate the magic evey 3-5 years or so.

      This time it’s AI, last it was crypto, and we’ve had web 2.0, 3.0, and a few others I’m likely missing.

      But yeah, it’s sold like a panacea every time, when really it’s revolutionary for like a handful of tasks.

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      That’s because they look like “talking machines” from various sci-fi. Normies feel as if they are touching the very edge of the progress. The rest of our life and the Internet kinda don’t give that feeling anymore.