I seen too many internet forums saying that if you don’t boycott X, Y, and Z, then you’re a “terrible person”. What do you think about that?
No, it’s the same with vegans / vegetarian, I think what they are doing is noble and I try to do as much as they, but I don’t look down or judge people for not being able to do it.
There’s enough shit in the world to worry about to start putting people down for not following every single boycott.
That said, fuck Nestle.
Context matters quite a bit here. Not all boycots are created equal.
I used to be the guy who wandered into Target every other week to get one thing and left with an $150 cart full of junk I didn’t plan on buying. I joined the boycotting over their DEI policy shift. I wouldn’t judge someone for continuing to shop there. Though I would encourage them to spend less. I view that boycott as an important lesson in respecting all stakeholders and not bending the knee to authoritarianism, but hardly an existential crisis for anyone or anything but Target.
I’m not sure if I’m technically boycotting Tesla because I’ve never done any business with them. However, it’s my firm conviction that someone who buys a Tesla today, is a piece of shit. Someone who knowingly invests in Tesla is a piece of shit. If they’re someone I continue to interact with after that they’re very likely to hear about it.
Tesla, in my opinion, is complicit in everything Elon does. It has proactively financed, and propagandized oppression and undermined democracy and the functioning of a government that is supposed to serve and represent me. Anyone who buys a Tesla today is also complicit.
I work downtown in my city for the state government. I usually see at lest 1 tesla per day if not more parked downtown. I’m excited when I see one that’s dirty because I can wet my fingertip and wipe dirt away in the shape of, “Fuck Tesla and Fuck Elon.”
a little. was kinda disappointed when some in my friends group bought the switch 2. but you can’t expect people to value the same things you do, but the judgement is natural as long as it’s in perspective.
It depends. The problem with purity tests is that you’re never 100% pure. It’s why even vegans hate vegans: you can never be vegan enough. I try not to judge, but I would judge if a friend, for example, bought a diesel truck with no use for it, or a cybertruck in general. That’s doing actual, active damage, at the expense of you as a person, why are you doing it?
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Sort of. I understand not wanting to deal with the difficulties of attempting ethical consumption, but you’re so much closer to being one of those people working in a sweatshop than you are being financially stable. It feels like you’re actively shooting yourself in the foot honestly.
Mind your own business!
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So you’ll buy two swastikars out of spite? Gonna vote for peDonald twice too?
I’m boycotting that KKKunt and you should too.
I hated smellmo long before he was dunking on cave rescue heroes
I’m judging you for your anger about being judged
I’m fine if they eat chicken fill a or buying a Cyber Truck, if they spend the same amount of time (using minimum wage as a scale) on community: mentoring trans kids, feeding homeless people, building shelter, changing diapers for the elderly, etc.
IMO if you do community service full time for a couple of years it grants you an entitlement for a douchebag car.
That’s not a douchebag car. It’s a statement akin to throwing a fucking sieg heil on Liberty Avenue.
Who the fuck are you to gatekeep me spending the money I earned?
That’s not what gatekeeping is
They’re saying no one should be allowed to buy a product without also spending time and money compensating for the company owner’s bigotry. That’s exactly gatekeeping.
If that’s the case you owe a fucktonne of money and service for all the Intel processors you’ve used seeing as Intel built the math machines that optimized the murder of Jews during the holocaust
That’s not gatekeeping, that’s being judgemental about how others spend their time.
It kind of depends on the reason for the boycott and how widely it’s understood. Like I for sure judge anyone who buys a cybertuck today.
Or a MAGA hat. Or a Trump card.
Yes. My son has a genetic disorder and receives care from my country’s socialized medical system. Donald Trump has threatened to annex my country. I would not be able to afford the treatments that keep my son alive under Trump. I boycott American goods like my child’s life depends on it. People need to understand that Trump’s threats towards the USA’s former allies imply deadly consequences. Fuck Trump, fuck maga, and fuck anyone who supports them by buying their shitty goods. Unless you have absolutely no choice, don’t buy American.
We all have different priorities in life. I’m far from perfect so I’m in no place to assume moral superiority over someone just because of a product they purchased.
Sometimes. If somebody claims to be a gay ally, but then eats at Chick-fil-A and shops at Target or Hobby Lobby, they’re not really being an ally. You’ve gotta put your money where your mouth is if you want any change in this world. Stop giving money to people that hate you.
Pretty clear you don’t actually understand anything about Chik-fil-A other than the things your chosen talking heads tell you
Chick fila a and hobby lobby for sure
Target will get a bit of leeway from me.
The other two are run by people who have actively funneled money towards shit like conversion therapy
Target, unless I’ve missed something, just kind of pulled their DEI initiatives, so while they’re not doing anything to make the situation better for LGBTQ people, they’re not trying to actively make shit worse for them either.
Also nothing chick fila a or hobby lobby sells is particularly essential, you don’t need craft supplies and fast food. Target at least sells basic essentials like clothes, groceries, medications, etc. and sometimes they’re the only or most affordable place in town to get those things, so I can’t exactly begrudge people for shopping there for those things unless I know there’s a better alternative.
If you can, you shouldn’t shop at target of course, but you gotta do what you gotta do.
I mean, Walmart is far worse than Target. People shit on Target now because they used to take a stand and then suddenly bailed like cowards. Walmart was born in evil, molded by it.
Thinking anyone is a terrible person is a great first step in making sure you will never win them over to your way of seeing things.
I didn’t used to, but I’m getting more judgemental as time goes on. I’m an ally and involved in LGBTQIA orgs and I can’t tell you how many gay friends and acquaintances I have that still go to Chick-fil-A and Walmart. I’m harsher with those two, but now, I’ll speak out against folks going to Target as well. Even without Target, Walmart and Amazon, I still have no trouble buying anything I need without inconvenience. The only language large corporations speak is money and if you can’t even boycott a company that makes mid fast food that’s spending money to take away your rights, it seems pathetic to me.
Yeah.
I’m sure there are a lot of people who are apathetc and think it’s not “worth it” to boycott, because “nobody else is doing it” and it “won’t have any effect”
Maybe that’s sometimes true, but for me it’s not even about that. It’s about having principles, sticking to them, and being proud of what I believe in.
Even if it achieves nothing, I’m still doing it.
You hit the nail on the head; principles are important and a measurement of your character. I understand that ignorance plays into it as well - I’m sure I support some crappy companies inadvertently. If we all tried our best however, there’d be less kowtowing to bigotry, fascism and exploitation of vulnerable people.
I can’t even get my family members to stop spending money on potter merchandise, I appreciate you.
Here in Canada, the products we’re boycotting have been marked down because people wouldn’t buy them otherwise. Someone that has less money than I have might need to buy the cheaper products so I’m not going to judge them for that.
