• blarghly@lemmy.world
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      9 days ago

      They did do it for a profit motive. Through whatever instincts or thought processes the beavers had, they figured that they would benefit from damming the river. The dam creates favorable conditions for hunting, nesting, and storing food. These benefits are a sort of profit. Money is a convenient kind of profit, because you can easily turn it into whatever other kind of thing you want and you can store it for later use - and also it is convenient to talk about in economic terms, since it is uniform and easily quantifiable. But no one (or, few people anyway) want money purely for the sake of having money - they want money because it allows them to have other things. Food, housing, good conditions for mating and raising their young.

      Sorry. The beavers were only in it for themselves.

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        8 days ago

        You almost had it, but the for profit (in the marxist The Capital) is exactly what you said here:

        “But no one (or,** few people anyway**) want money purely for the sake of having money”

        That phrase, that “Want money purely for the sake of having money” is the definitive aspect of capitalism.

        What you implied the beavers did is a Commodity-Money-Commodity model (edit: money=work realized in case of beavers) and it is what commerce does and how humans lived before capitalism (no sarcasm but humans lived quite well without the machinery of capitalism).

        You make it very clear with the phrase “they want money because it allows them to have other things. Food, housing, good conditions for mating and raising their young.”

        This is C-M-C model, which defines the proletariat.


        Now, capitalist (which makes capitalism exist) are exactly the opposite.

        They live based on M-C-M model.

        They only purchase a commodity with the intent of turning it into a profit.

        In short, they use money for the sole objectivity of having more money (so that they can use more money to have more more money).

        This is capitalism:

        Turning the monetization the end goal and the winner(???) is the one with the biggest numbers.

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          8 days ago

          Almost had what? You seem to be reading a lot into my comment. Also, the way you are phrasing it makes you sound like a pompus asshole.

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            8 days ago

            Yeah. I’m kinda reading a lot into your comment.

            Also, I admit I was being a pompous asshole.

            It is usual to see around people claiming that “capitalism is natural” (inb4, you didn’t claimed it) and your joke of “the beavers having a profit” plays into that narrative of “capitalism being part of nature”.

            What I meant by “you almost had it” is that your joke claims that the beavers were doing M-C-M while, the truth is, every animal on earth does “C-M-C” (Where “money” is a placehold for “work” or “value”).

            Again. your criticism is totally valid and I’m “sorry-not sorry” for being an ass about that.

            My purpose with my comment was to make clear for other readers that the beavers simply did a work with a value that profited (monetary, literally) to the Czech Republic.

            TL:DR Fuck capitalism! Return to beaver!