Memes like this wants me to use the word “Reddit” like a slur…
art requires some form of effort, AI “art” does not have that
Now explain that to people who brainstorm for hours on a prompt to put into AI to create something lol. Both parties make an effort wether it’s physical or mental to create something /s although without AI the range in art is quite limitless and you don’t have any boundaries so it’s more preferred and logical. I never used AI but I could make up why people would use it for, because you need to have a serious talent and experience to turn it into perfection but i do agree that, ai should not count as art or such
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sure thing ill do.
typing a few prompts is no effort. you literally just type what you want, then just slightly adjust your prompt. it doesn’t even take me 5 minutes to achieve a satisfactory result, and not even 10 to get exactly what i want. you may generate to your hearts content but dont call it art. and especially dont call it “my art”.
It was a sarcasm, I thought people would get it because of the “lol” — my bad. All I was trying to say is, to me, using AI without putting in real effort, time, or actual skill doesn’t feel like art. If anyone can just type a few words and get results instantly, then it loses meaning. That’s not creativity, that’s convenience. And yeah, I get that it can still look good — but calling it “your art do also just doesn’t sit right with me too.
my fault chief, i think i have been scrolling too much tiktok lately and forgot that some people are actually capable of joking.
Yeah no problem
So, you are so artist as that italian kid who want a tsunami with a happy face…
AI artists don’t exist, the AI is the “artist”. You’re the proverbial “ideas guy” that can’t do anything themself and can’t even come up with a style that doesn’t exist already so the AI can copy it. You’re heating up a factory-made frozen pizza and calling yourself a chef.
I don’t get the joke. Is it that the person on the right thinks they’re an artist?
Just people too lazy to learn a skill who want to flip the narrative. A bit like when you copy/paste a command grabbed online in a linux terminal and then feel like “a programmer” when the system do the thing it was built to.
After reading the first sentence I wasn’t sure if you were anti-AI “too lazy to learn how to paint” or pro-AI “too lazy to learn prompt engineering” :D
As for your actual comment, while I’m also generally against AI, I feel like a shift in perspective is inevitable and has already happened to an extent.
I think it makes sense to compare image genAI to photography. It also made it far easier for people without “artistic talent” to produce images. Same as with AI, it is technically a purely mechanical process, a machine designed to make images. Also similar to AI, most of those images were kind of trash. However, it soon became its own separate art form, with its own language and a set of rules for “what makes a picture good”. Would you say that photographers are not artists because they use a mechanical (or, nowadays, electronic) contraption for their art?
I feel like something similar is happening with AI. There are be certain kinds of AI-generated images that people like, and it will take increasing amounts of effort and skill to generate new, interesting ones. As time goes on and the hype wears off a bit, there will be a relatively small community of hardcore AI prompt engineers making something novel and interesting, while most people just use AI for practical purposes or just fun, similar to photography.
The main differences between photography and genAI are the insane amount of energy required for generating batches of images, and the fact that it steals from human artists to produce its results. This is the reason I’m opposed to the current AI hype, not just because it’s mechanical.
To put it simply. I do use AI and I do prompt, but I don’t consider any of it art. About Prompting, i think that’s more like learning to speak a couple of words in Chinese to order some fancy food in a foreign restaurant. You (may) get a more complex and peculiar food of many others, but that doesn’t make you a cook.
I don’t think that’s quite the right analogy. You’re not talking to humans to get your images. You are using a tool that’s designed to generate images from written language.
A better analogy would be an invention of a mechanical cook. While it will sometimes make edible food if you just give it regular language instructions, to get something truly tasty and interesting out of it you need to learn how it works and even understand its inner functioning. And while doing that may or may not make you “a cook”, it does give you the ability to produce new interesting food and share it with others, which is useful&cool in its own right.
Given how vague most definitions of “art” are, I feel like we can call some AI-generated stuff a form of art (but that’s not a strong opinion of mine). I don’t think we should gatekeep what “art” is - if it allows you to express your emotions and feelings and share it with others, I say why not call it “art”? It’s definitely not the same as painting or drawing or photography, but it can produce interesting and/or aesthetically pleasing results, and the results improve with skill.
And yet, you just feed it instruction. All his “ingredients” are taken from others “plates”. Nothing truly new can come out of it.
The most “original” think i’ve ever saw from the ai models was the messy dream-like pictures of their first generations. Since then everything has turn into a beautiful, clean, monotonous remix of something else.
I think it makes sense to compare image genAI to photography.
As a photographer, nope.
Legit, I’m not even reading the rest of what you said. This photography point is so mind numbingly boring at this point.
It be like that all the time. Instead of embracing chance people attack change. Until the wake up call happens and they realize that all art is AI. Every single piece of Art created was done by AI. The government has been keeping this a secret for centuries. The computer chips in our heads tell us what art to make and how to make it.
This is why I have an old school medieval helmet I wear everywhere. Except the airport, I won’t make that mistake a fifth time.
There is a tool called ComfyUI, which is THE tool for audio/video/image generation, and it looks just like the node editor for creating shaders. So there is some kind of skill and artistic choice involved for sure.
