Samsung Galaxy S25 Ultra 256GB - $1299
Apple 16 Pro Max 256GB - $1199
Google Pixel 9 Pro 256GB - $1199
The only person being represented by this meme is OP.
My current galaxy cost like $200
People paying a grand for a cell phone are suckers for real
Galaxies and pixels are half off msrp like 6 months later.
Their 1TB version is $1600 because they get away with charging $400 for $40 worth of storage.
Is it really 40$ in that form factor?
I just extrapolate from NVMe SSDs which are currently ~$55 for 1TB, so ~$40 for 750GB = 1TB - 250GB. It’s really hard to find info about the true cost of internal storage on mobile devices.
They can’t keep getting away with this!!!
Narrator: They kept getting away with it.
So tired of the audience participation in these endless phone wars. Oh you have a smart phone? Dope! They’re cool and useful. Anyway
If people were simply pointing out the pros and cons of the various devices, it would be very helpful and useful. I don’t care if you hate Apple, I just want information about the hardware and software and if it’s a good value proposition.
I like Apple’s os, App Store and processors better than android’s. I like Android’s everything else better than apple’s.
Ultimately you are getting fucked anyway but you get to pick the guy who fucks you.
Well everyone says, and has said for years, that the best phone would run iOS but with the hardware innovations of Android phones.
Hell we’re on the 7th generation of foldables and Apple still hasn’t got one. I get they’re not for everyone, and that’s fine, but they should have the option.
If Apple offered an iPad that I could fold up and put in my pocket I might actually consider switching over. I’m not particularly bothered by iOS on a phone but iPad OS on a foldable phone I’m pretty sure that would sound like hotcakes even if it was 3K.
Rumor has it Apple wasn’t happy with the crease in folding phones and didn’t want to launch a foldable until they could solve the crease problem. Supposedly, they are gearing up to launch theirs next year and Samsung will be adopting apples solution for the crease problem then too.
Apple are launching a folding phone next year in the same way that Fusion is a decade away.
They’ve been saying that since the launch of folding phones and the crease thing is just an excuse. No one who actually has ever experienced a folding phone cares about the crease. But if it was actually a solvable problem, I’m pretty sure engineers at Samsung are smart enough to be able to work it out, I don’t think we have to leave it up to the Apple geniuses.
Apple has its own custom hinge already designed and ready in the supply chain for next year. Samsung likes their design and is adopting it for their next model.
That’s clever.
They knew apple’s design, how immensely resourceful of them.
leaves out the part where their old iphone “just stopped working” after a required update.
Mine is 5 years old. Doing just fine.
Not in a literal sense but apple do tend to cripple old iPhone with their newest software update. I should know i owned an iPhone 12 mini on ios 17. That little bugger stutter everytime i pull down the control centre, scrolling through safari, scrolling through app, delay when pressing keyboard and yes, the battery is above 90% iirc.
My wife’s iphone xr is even worse, granted it has been 7 years but god damn, that thing make my blood boil. Its still on ios 17, i cant imagine how slow it’s gonna be on ios 18. Battery is at 82% though but i dont think replacing battery is worth it at the moment. Just waiting for the right moment to upgrade.
Experiencing none of that on iPhone 11 Pro.
I think if anything, the 12 mini just had subpar tech due to size constraints. Sadly.
I think ios 17 is just buggy on iphone 12 mini because i compared it side by side with my wife iPhone XR and hers is just fine when pulling the control centre.
Also, i think the sole problem is apple is throttling the 12 mini when it gets too warm. Its a fine phone but the battery is really bad. I have long upgraded to another phone but its just bad experience on my part. Thats all.
My Oneplus 5t running LineageOS still works really well, snappy even.
It’s a year older then the XR
I’ve had the same experience. I had a 6s and an XR, and they both slowed down tremendously overnight after iOS updates (not the same one, 6s happened a few years before). Also, the update for the 6s that caused performance issues also removed/made redundant a lot of the OS features that made use of 3D Touch, because the newer phones didn’t have it anymore. For the 6s, I know it wasn’t a battery issue; I replaced that battery, and it didn’t fix them.
For a minute, battery replacements or repairs weren’t even a reasonable option, with how repair-unfriendly their phones had gotten. But afaik they’ve improved in that regard, providing official tools, parts and guidance. Also, you can call them to have them activate the Face ID module if you replace a screen, which is a big win for right-to-repair. Props to them for that!
When android isn’t spyware, I’ll consider switching.
Fanboi: “Apple does everything Android does! They just lie about it!”
Apple is no saint, but they have a different business model with different pressures. There’s little incentive for them to commit the same sins Android does.
What do you think iCloud is for? Do you they are just be nice offering a cloud storage solution, or do you think maybe they get something out of it?
iCloud is just a set of services Apple offers for their customers. Complete with vendor lock in. There’s no indication they are selling that data though if that’s what you are asking.
Apple absolutely does spy on their customers. They’ve just taken this clever approach where they say they don’t, and for some bizarre reason everyone just accepts it.
They probably don’t spy as much as Google does, but let’s face it they’re definitely collecting info.
Last time I went to my cellphone carrier offices to upgrade my hardware, they were already pushing the iPhone 15 or 16, but I went in there and asked for the iPhone 10, managed to get the very last one they had in stock. It cost a fraction of what the latest ones did, does everything I need it to do, and a couple of years later it’s still purring like a kitten.
it’s still purring like a kitten.
…should a phone be doing that?
The Iphone is a luxury commodity and like all luxury commodities it marketed for people with little sense and lots of money who are easily separated from the ladder with shiny trinkets. Before the Iphone there was the Rolex and the super-secret clothing designer brands only 1%er yuppies think they know about. Before that people ground up egyptian mummies for medicine/taste and bought expensive jar of nutmeg spice from halfway across the world imported via boat. These kind of people were always going to spend 2000$ on trinkets whether its a 2000$ pocket computer or a 800$ wrist watch is a difference in taste. The real question is why humanity can’t shed this consumerist prone archetype what is it about people constantly wanting new shiny things that they don’t need and for which the money can go to a better place? Why do modern consumerist not have the ability to tell corporations to fuck off? Why is it that after a quarter century of time to get used to the concept of a computer and an email people tantrum and shriek when their tappy button gets moved 2 inches to the left without knowing how to fix it? Why do we consider this an acceptable baseline for human intelligence and emotional volatility?
I would argue it is premium, not luxury.
Premium like a flagship Samsung, offering extra features and quality for the buyer, usually for a disproportionately higher price. Luxury is where there is no extra value offered beyond brand recognition, signaling to yourself and the world that your can afford it (like the obscure clothing brands you mention).
Not many luxury phone brands exist, maybe Vertu with gold and diamond set phones. Cars are an easier comparison, premium is e.g. MB, Audi or BMW, while luxury is Bentley, RR or Ferrari.
Rolex is also more of a premium product within the watch market, it is machine made and mass produced to a very high quality level, offering additional value (like better accuracy, less steel corrosion, longer service intervals) compared to other automatic Swiss watches. On the other hand, luxury hand made watches like Patek Philippe or FP Journe are not competing with others by offering better technical parameters, but dominate due to their brand recognition, making rich people beg salespeople to get a chance to buy them.
This of course doesn’t really make a difference beyond marketing, as most people cannot afford a 10k Rolex or a 200k FP Journe either - but they do hold a very different position in their market.
To answer your question, I think most humans are very social, and always seek to stand out with status and personal brand within their group. Capitalism offers the easy way to do this - buy this thing, and show the world what you are worth. It unfortunately works, as it targets our strong primal instincts.
And the $2k Galaxy Folds are for discerning consumers?
No, the 100-200$ Galaxy S mid range android phone with half decent RAM, screen size, actual specs and features that enable practical work, social communication, or entertainment consumption with a reasonable price to lifespan cycle ratio is.
You know, something you can actually buy outright, calculate approximately how much value you got by how many years it lasted before breaking, and not get stuck into a never-ending cycle of slowly frog-boiling raising contract rates.
So wheres the brand new retail sold 200$ Iphone budget entry for the plebs to access the IOS ecosystem on the cheap?
Yeah, I thought so. its called market segregation and Apple knows the exact crowd they made a billion dollar industry pleasing.
Any phone thats >500$ and doubley so for >1000$ are for the people who spend hundreds of dollars a month on contracts renewing them continuously every two years convinced its somehow a deal and don’t think twice about it. Different flavor of luxury good gotta get that tribalism social posturing in after all.
If you were a true professional in an industry making complete use for videography, audio recording and editing, music production, I could maybe see it.
But lets be real, thats the statistical outlier for apple users you know exactly what 99% of people do with their phones. Check emails, shit posting on the internet, watch youtube, MAYBE record a quick video or picture without knowing how to manually balance anything or even knowing what an ISO is.
So wheres the brand new retail sold 200$ Iphone budget entry for the plebs to access the IOS ecosystem on the cheap?
They used to have the iPhone SE series, which was significantly cheaper than the standard ones. Prices went up on those each generation, though, and they discontinued it for the “e” variants for the mainline iPhones, which are much more expensive than even the most expensive SE.
2020 iPhone SE is my favorite phone. It’s the perfect size and power. Apple’s going to have to pry it from my cold dead hands.
I bought that one refurbed for one of my kids. I was definitely impressed. Small, fast, actual iOS version. Where is this magic phone from? Its not like the others.
What’s there to innovate, really? That ship has sailed back in the ‘90’s.
Nokia, Motorola, Sony-Ericksson and a bunch of other companies put out a ton of really neat phones. Tech moved so fast, every six months you’d see new leaps: introducing a color screen, Bluetooth, new ringtone formats, WAP, installable apps, etc.
These days we’ve pretty much settled on boring rectangular slabs. Innovation means yet another camera, a .01 mm thinner phone, a faster screen… none of it really exciting.
We all need phones. And yes, iPhones just work. There’s nothing wrong with buying a thing that just works. I don’t need my toaster to ‘innovate’ either - just to make toast predictably, you know?
It might just be the old, but I’m having trouble thinking of the last time there was any meaningful advance in mobile phones at all. Face ID comes to mind.
Not a day goes by where I don’t feel angry that there are no viable, mainstream FLOSS Linux phones. No Android, nothing downstream of Google at all… just Linux and a nice, touch-friendly UI. Until then, I pinch my nose and pick Apple as the lesser of the available evils.
Dude I’m still bitter about Apple killing 3D Touch. It’s like companies research what I like and when they find it that’s the tipping point for killing a feature/flavor/model/etc.
Canonical had a really interesting idea for a Linux phone back in the day but it never launched. There are some Linux phones trying to make that happen but it’s just not likely to see the widespread adoption needed to fund development.
We can’t have nice things.
“it just works” is also what my partner says, but we can’t videocall through Signal for longer than 1h because her iPhone will overheat and go into temp error mode and shuts down. And even when charging the battery with the official charger it will drain faster than it can charge during a videocall. Apple is far superior for sure xD
I mean, sure. We could all just list anecdotes on why one or the other is superior.
Tap for spoiler
The superior phone is the one you like to use.
I agree with your spoiler. But when you look at how Apple works, with there monopoly with their app store and how old phones get mediocre updates while newer phones lack significant improvements, while they do their best to make it exclusive (for example, even though usb C is forced on to them, they have their own version. But also removing the aux plus which sadly is copied by other brands). Samsung does the same, as they joined the fight against right to repair so they are just as evil as Apple imo. Many brands are either from mega corps and push apps onto you and love to exploit their users, or are Chinese brands stealing away customers with too cheap prices while their next line is just as bad as the competition while they hoard your data. It’s hard to find a decent brand these days. It’s just an ocean of shit companies.
The most innovative thing the iPhone has added in years is the LiDAR and like <1% of the users actually use that beyond Face ID.
Oh wow! Another super inspired meme hating on a subset of users’ personal preferences! So original, thank you! Haha, apple user and phones bad!
Big “I use arch btw” energy.
I use iPhones for myself and the family because they just work. I don’t shell out for the latest models, this as-new iPhone 12 I’m on now works just fine. I use Linux for everything else but my requirements for a phone are totally different to what I need from a PC. I don’t need freedom or the ability to tinker or hack it. I need my phone to operate as a reliable appliance and a mobile wallet, so I appreciate features like Apple wallet and Face ID. Other people’s requirements might differ but I think it is just a case of horses for courses. But don’t get me started on all the advanced features of the iPhone that are hidden so well behind the pretty ui most people will never ever realise they exist…
Lol Apple fans have strong feelings about their tech choices. Defending Apple in social media gets you 5% off your next purchase of nearly the same hardware stretched across different formfactors as “choice”! Never change consumers.