I haven’t worked in an office since before the pandemic, but back when I did I had super religious republican guy who sat to my left. On his left there was another lefty atheist like myself. 3 years later we had him voting for Biden and doubting his entire faith.
3-4 years of being proven incorrect day in and day out does that I think. Takes persistence. I still keep in contact with the guy actually. He’s a really good guy, just was very ignorant on a lot of things. I’ve heard he’s had a lot of arguments with the very conservative side of his family since then.
My mother, on the other hand, nearly 80 years old and completely brainwashed. No amount of persistence would ever work on her. Unfortunately, I think thats the reality for the majority of the MAGA idiots.
I don’t think we should hire any Catholics because they believe eat humans and drinking their blood is legitimately okay. The people who believe God decides anything in day to day life should all be fired for not being able to accept scientific theory, which is the same scientific theory that drives the economy in which this company runs. I mean come on they are clearly braindead drones who believe anything they are told and have proven they can’t innovate anything new that could help us. Also all Muslims are terrorists, they’ve been proving it on the news every night for decades, we shouldn’t hire them either.
In most companies they would just get rid of you for talking about the news / politics. If you fire someone for preaching their religion the company can be sued for illegally terminating an employee do to their religious beliefs. It’s not a good idea.
I find you calling me a religious zealot to be hindering my right to tell you why you’re going to hell for the next 8 hours as is my given right now. In fact I think HR may find it pertinent to know you were calling people religious zealots for practicing their legal rights at work.
…it isn’t trolling, it was the discussion as to why this is a bad idea.
No I called Catholics cannibals, which they believe they are. The Eucharist being the actual transformation into the body and blood of Christ is one of the main differences between Catholics and some protestant denominations that split off. Methodists for instance, do not. Lutheran’s believe it is a physical transformation and not just a spiritual ceramony one either.
Thereby, they intentionally eat a person’s flesh and blood every Sunday, or rather they try to.
Also I never called Muslims Zealots, I called them terrorists, because that’s what I learned from the news. Which was obvious satire… Zealots are obsessive, not necessarily terrorists. A good example of zealots would be the Jesuits.
(Though one could argue Jesuits were church sanctioned terrorists… But that’s besides the point)
As an atheist, faith should be warmly invited, and traditions should be celebrated. You don’t have to have anything to do with it. You can assert yourself without assuming you know what people think and classifying their worship. And, on another note: these are human tales. You think books that took generations to compile don’t have a few nuggets of hard earned wisdom? Do you read Frankenstein and dismiss it because it’s ludicrous?
hard disagree. we should allow them, but we definitely shouldn’t be inviting and celebrating them. All religion does is undermine society and prop up the rich and powerful.
You’re simply wrong. That is not all that religion does. You and I have both seen, in person, the power of faith. This hard-line science approach is toxic. As somebody who has been entrenched in theoretical physics for 15 years and is currently running my own relativistic model, I can tell you with confidence that these physicists love selling half-truths and relying on rote memorization. Let alone interference from intelligence agencies. The scientists they shove in your face are not the ones from the Manhatten Project. They are incrementalists trained to mind their calculations and suppress dissent. This is a simple, obvious fact of a post-mutual destruction age.
I’m going to add, you’re confusing atheism with nihilism. You’re a disrespectful bubble boy who needs to develop your social skills. Other people are important to your brain development, and your empathy and ego are profoundly undeveloped. Want some science dogma? Philosophies of mind, like Buddhism are really just pointing toward smooth operation between body and mind. 3 parts to your brain: conscious, subconscious, and other people. We are social primates with mirror neurons and facial recognition. That input is important for brain development. That’s where you get ego and empathy. Work on it. Meditation is easy. Going outside and talking to people is easy.
Thank you. I identified the parts of the machine, from the military-industrial-intelligence complex to the Epstein honeypot operation. This confirms my final hypothesis: The motivation is theological. An elite death/apocalypse cult. I suspected it because of the nature of the honeypot operation. Could have been gambling or personal blackmail. No. The desecration of innocence was a ritual, and the island, a temple. Revealing the final inner circle. The high priests of a cult. You can find their rituals being portrayed as frat-like behavior.
Authoritarianism comes in many forms. Didn’t any of you read 1984? I mean, don’t waste your time - there’s way better materials to learn from, but Thought Police, anyone? Also, no idea why you’re getting downvoted. You atheists are dogmatic as fuck. I’m an atheist. Hey, let’s ban Islam. That’s how you sound.
China doesn’t ban organised religion. It even has a state church. China is paranoid in general, and an effect of that is they just like to keep religious followers where they can see them. In a way, literally, churches there are kind of like a compound (not a security compound) where they hold meetings and worship and house missionaries and stuff.
It doesn’t ban evangelisation or missionaries per say, but mainly foreigners. Part of this is a concern with foreign interference (which to be fair, the USAID was recently exposed for sending money to Christian organisations abroad so the American megachurches can gain influence there.)
It’s not ideal for Christians, but it’s nowhere near what @SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world was suggesting as “banning organised religion”.
If anything, China can be seen as preferring organised religion to unorganised religion
Time to start turning my coworkers into atheists.
All jokes aside, this ends when we ban orginized religion.
Nobody should be publicly religious. Do it in your own home.
I haven’t worked in an office since before the pandemic, but back when I did I had super religious republican guy who sat to my left. On his left there was another lefty atheist like myself. 3 years later we had him voting for Biden and doubting his entire faith.
You broke through the religious echo chamber. Well done!
3-4 years of being proven incorrect day in and day out does that I think. Takes persistence. I still keep in contact with the guy actually. He’s a really good guy, just was very ignorant on a lot of things. I’ve heard he’s had a lot of arguments with the very conservative side of his family since then.
My mother, on the other hand, nearly 80 years old and completely brainwashed. No amount of persistence would ever work on her. Unfortunately, I think thats the reality for the majority of the MAGA idiots.
Keep it between you and god, where it belongs.
So your jokes weren’t aside. “I only want people to be publicly atheist and nothing else.”
I don’t think we should hire any Catholics because they believe eat humans and drinking their blood is legitimately okay. The people who believe God decides anything in day to day life should all be fired for not being able to accept scientific theory, which is the same scientific theory that drives the economy in which this company runs. I mean come on they are clearly braindead drones who believe anything they are told and have proven they can’t innovate anything new that could help us. Also all Muslims are terrorists, they’ve been proving it on the news every night for decades, we shouldn’t hire them either.
In most companies they would just get rid of you for talking about the news / politics. If you fire someone for preaching their religion the company can be sued for illegally terminating an employee do to their religious beliefs. It’s not a good idea.
Either you’re a troll or a religious zealot.
I don’t think companies should get rid of people for talking about news and politics in a respectful manner
I find you calling me a religious zealot to be hindering my right to tell you why you’re going to hell for the next 8 hours as is my given right now. In fact I think HR may find it pertinent to know you were calling people religious zealots for practicing their legal rights at work.
…it isn’t trolling, it was the discussion as to why this is a bad idea.
You called Muslims zealots, and Christians cannibals and stupid.
Smells like an Atheist religious zealot to me.
No I called Catholics cannibals, which they believe they are. The Eucharist being the actual transformation into the body and blood of Christ is one of the main differences between Catholics and some protestant denominations that split off. Methodists for instance, do not. Lutheran’s believe it is a physical transformation and not just a spiritual ceramony one either.
Thereby, they intentionally eat a person’s flesh and blood every Sunday, or rather they try to.
Also I never called Muslims Zealots, I called them terrorists, because that’s what I learned from the news. Which was obvious satire… Zealots are obsessive, not necessarily terrorists. A good example of zealots would be the Jesuits.
(Though one could argue Jesuits were church sanctioned terrorists… But that’s besides the point)
As an atheist, faith should be warmly invited, and traditions should be celebrated. You don’t have to have anything to do with it. You can assert yourself without assuming you know what people think and classifying their worship. And, on another note: these are human tales. You think books that took generations to compile don’t have a few nuggets of hard earned wisdom? Do you read Frankenstein and dismiss it because it’s ludicrous?
hard disagree. we should allow them, but we definitely shouldn’t be inviting and celebrating them. All religion does is undermine society and prop up the rich and powerful.
religion can get fucked.
You’re simply wrong. That is not all that religion does. You and I have both seen, in person, the power of faith. This hard-line science approach is toxic. As somebody who has been entrenched in theoretical physics for 15 years and is currently running my own relativistic model, I can tell you with confidence that these physicists love selling half-truths and relying on rote memorization. Let alone interference from intelligence agencies. The scientists they shove in your face are not the ones from the Manhatten Project. They are incrementalists trained to mind their calculations and suppress dissent. This is a simple, obvious fact of a post-mutual destruction age.
Sure you are. Religion is is just a way to control the masses and always has been.
I’m going to add, you’re confusing atheism with nihilism. You’re a disrespectful bubble boy who needs to develop your social skills. Other people are important to your brain development, and your empathy and ego are profoundly undeveloped. Want some science dogma? Philosophies of mind, like Buddhism are really just pointing toward smooth operation between body and mind. 3 parts to your brain: conscious, subconscious, and other people. We are social primates with mirror neurons and facial recognition. That input is important for brain development. That’s where you get ego and empathy. Work on it. Meditation is easy. Going outside and talking to people is easy.
I don’t give a shit. It’s important to the people I care about. You’re fucking bankrupt. Sucks for you
Are you from the Fringe parallel universe?
My pointing to the project was a demonstration of what we can do when we’re not in the middle of active suppression.
I was pointing to the spelling. Dude. Seriously.
My bad. Went over my head
fuck off
Yeah, like that. Psychological warfare is a bitch, huh?
I would agree with you if the Christians supporting Republicans weren’t literally trying to start the apocalypse.
https://deadline.com/2023/03/praying-for-armageddon-cph-dox-film-evangelical-influence-on-american-policy-director-tonje-hessen-schei-interview-1235304641/
Thank you. I identified the parts of the machine, from the military-industrial-intelligence complex to the Epstein honeypot operation. This confirms my final hypothesis: The motivation is theological. An elite death/apocalypse cult. I suspected it because of the nature of the honeypot operation. Could have been gambling or personal blackmail. No. The desecration of innocence was a ritual, and the island, a temple. Revealing the final inner circle. The high priests of a cult. You can find their rituals being portrayed as frat-like behavior.
Banning religion has been tried, It doesn’t work. Banning the awful things that religion makes people do is a better option.
Authoritarianism comes in many forms. Didn’t any of you read 1984? I mean, don’t waste your time - there’s way better materials to learn from, but Thought Police, anyone? Also, no idea why you’re getting downvoted. You atheists are dogmatic as fuck. I’m an atheist. Hey, let’s ban Islam. That’s how you sound.
There are multiple countries who have already banned orginized religion.
It is the next step of human society.
Examples? I’d like to see how it’s going.
North Korea is basically the only one I could find.
And they execute religious followers… Among other things.
They just replaced traditional religions with worshiping Glorious Leader.
True ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
china restricts evagelization and missionaries, but doesn’t outright ban religion.
China doesn’t ban organised religion. It even has a state church. China is paranoid in general, and an effect of that is they just like to keep religious followers where they can see them. In a way, literally, churches there are kind of like a compound (not a security compound) where they hold meetings and worship and house missionaries and stuff.
It doesn’t ban evangelisation or missionaries per say, but mainly foreigners. Part of this is a concern with foreign interference (which to be fair, the USAID was recently exposed for sending money to Christian organisations abroad so the American megachurches can gain influence there.)
It’s not ideal for Christians, but it’s nowhere near what @SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world was suggesting as “banning organised religion”.
If anything, China can be seen as preferring organised religion to unorganised religion
you added good context and nuance
Learn to google things
So you’re full of shit, got it.
If you can’t learn to copy/paste into a sewrch engine then you are going to keep failing to know things for a long time.
I don’t fucking care enough to spoon feed you, you’re an adult act like it.