It’s not the EU yet. It’s a group of activists from Denmark. There wasn’t even preliminary voting on it yet.
Doesn’t mean we need to be complacent of course, but so far nothing happened.but so far nothing happened
Things happens frighteningly fast these days. It’s not a matter of being complacent; it’s a matter of budding things in the nip. Which won’t work. Then tirelessly fight back against it.
Unless you’ve been sleeping under a rock these last few… weeks. Not even months. Some legislation can go from 0 to 100 extremely quickly if left unchecked.
What activists? I need their names, for personal research reasons.
I don’t know who reintroduced it, but here the original one https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=COM%3A2022%3A209%3AFIN&qid=1652451192472
Is the EU not subject to GDPR?
Rules are for the people, not governments
The EU decides what’s GDPR. And it seems recently it decided to not be buggered by those old ideas that are privacy, freedom, etc.
Maybe it’s time to restart some some old Greek traditions and propose a law that anyone proposing chat control - from here on out - gets banished for life from entering European soil ever again.
They were smart, those oiled fish-eating goatfuckers. So maybe yes, that - and also sortition and ostracism.
oiled-fish
Sun-rotten fish guts even, called Garum. Or nowadays Colatura di Alici, Pissata from Nizza, etc.
This is not the Europe I remember…
Thank god my OS doesn’t care about EU regulation
Your OS doesn’t, put the messaging apps that your friends/family/coworkers use do.
And no, you can’t convince them to switch messager, I tried.
I, at least, managed to get most of my family to switch. I told them it was the only way they’d get pictures and updates of my son. The one small victory I’m satisfied with.
You don’t have to say everything on those apps, tho, just do basic stuff and for longer convos request an encrypted chat app.
Currently, I, my entire Family and everyone I know use Signal. And everyone that doesn’t want to, can contact me via Matrix or XMPP, which literally no one ever does, even thought I know a lot of IT and CS people. I keep them as options regardless, just to offer them to people.
I mean, there is also phone, SMS and email of course, but people seem to prefer a new messenger over actually contacting me in any of these ways. And then I’m always like “look, you can choose one of countless ways to contact me, if you like none of them, that’s a you-problem”.
As long as owning a device that allow full E2E encryption without spyware isn’t illegal.
It bears repeating a lot of time : the technology to circumvent these things exist, and will continue to exist. However, there’s nothing preventing obtuse lawmakers from making it illegal to own. And then, it’s just a matter of catching someone and finding some rooted android phone in his pocket.
And what do you think that means the moment your OS connects to, oh I don’t know, the rest of the fucking planet?
I’m starting to edit idcaboutprivacy more and more often (and that’s not a good thing)
Dude, I decided to make a personal note with lots of similar links regarding privacy, so that I can provide the source when I discuss these matters with people. But yours in much more thorough - and public. Thanks for saving me a ton of work!
That’s dope, glad it could help 🤟
STASI enters the chat.
Their kind never leaves the chat, it’s a professional habit
They won’t.
If you’re a citizen of an EU country, you should contact your politicians to tell them not to, maybe they won’t.
It only has to pass once, and they keep trying.
Some keep trying. That’s how democracy and politics works in general.
Many people in the US thought “He won’t”
So, call your representatives.
I agree that calling representatives can always be a good idea. But you cant compare the US and the EU.
There is no “he”, there is no president. No single person can run nor ruin it.
It’s simply not as fragile, but again, always let your voice be heard like you suggest. Just in case.
Nah, a logical OR in their favor is not how democracy should work.
Contacting politicians directly is good, but joining orgs like the Electronic Frontier Foundation or Privacy International multiplies your impact since they have lawyers and can actualy challenge these laws in court.
With SKG going as well as it is, wouldn’t an ECI on chat control be in order?
The fuck is happening over there? Was there lead in the water?
It’s not lead, it’s Russians
Welcome to earth, Everybody Sucks Here.
Encryption. Is easy.
Wtf. Is Signal going to be affected? I just recently installed Signal on my phone.
time to make my own shitty ass software to deal with this stuff
should check existing options first:
- Briar
- Simplex
- Tox
- Matrix and elements as frontend
- xmpp
Let us know when it’s ready for Alpha testing. Most of us will gladly give it a shot and help iron it out.
Compelling search engines to deindex results, age verification, chat monitoring: stay golden, EU.
So, need a non-homicidal, non-EU country to run an XMPP server then…
