Running water would be nice
I think that comes from the roof.
(water incursion is a huge source of anxiety; this place is NOT for me)
Nah, I still want to live in a community. Just not the fake community we have now.
Also, log cabin homes are bad. The one pictured has the internal space of an efficiency apartment, but uses far more logs of wood to get a much draftier result. You could get a lot of 2x4s out of this thing.
Yea but if a tree falls on it, its going to survive the impact. Which is kind of important in the woods.
Tree falls on your log cabin — now you just have more house.
- Mitch Hedberg
Native Americans came up with plenty of dwellings using the same materials in the same environment. Most of those were far less wasteful. Trees falling are not that common.
Were they permanent dwellings? It’s fascinating how different cultures come up with different construction techniques, if you have any links with more info could you please share them?
Funny enough, a tree just fell on my water tank at camp.
Drafty? You know they put isolation between the logs right?
By not opening the logs, you don’t invite moisture to the wood either. If you made them into 2x4’s and didn’t treat them, you’d have rot within a few years. It’s not exactly a coincidence that log cabins where the norm where you had enough wood to support them.
Absolutely not. I was doing Spanish learning on an app and laughed at the guy who moved from “una casa oscura en las afueras” to “un apartmento soleado en el centro” (from the dark and gloomy house in the outskirts to the sunny apartment in the center of town) and raised his spirits because that is also the way I feel about living.
We all just want to be left alone, in some form or other. Ironically, in order to be left alone, we need to ban together.
You are absolutely right. Our world is imbalanced.
We are a social creature, we are such a social creature shaped by millions of years of cooperative survival, that we literally fall apart and die without social identity. We have “loneliness epidemics” while being more connected to each other than we could have ever imagined.
We desperately need social support, not just from friends and family but from communities. The whole “single family home” is a brand new concept in human society, we used to all live in villages where we knew each other, before that, huge tents and dugouts where we piled together and talked and cooked on fires together and shagged like animals day and night. We raised our kids as a community and nobody ever felt alone or adrift, and in fact being expelled from your community was one of the harshest punishments anyone could do to you.
So why are we all retreating to discord chats and AI text predictors? Why do we want to avoid our neighbors so desperately that we want to remove ourselves even further from our societies?
We are sad because we are alone, and we are alone because we are sad, and we have massive corporate machines pouring every placating, dopamine-numbing distraction down our gullets so we don’t actually start hanging out and socializing and forming communities again. If we did that, we might start sharing ideas and motivations and we might start changing systems… can’t have that! So best to keep reinforcing isolation. Show big, empty minimalist homes with huge TV screens as your “peak” goal in life, having isolated cabins in the woods with all the amenities as a measure of success. We run from people who think different instead of trying to convince them to be better and we argue with people ostensibly on our side and we get so stressed by it all that we do everything we can to turn off actual conscious, narrative thought.
Whenever this get posted people comment about ACKTUALLY this is bad because no food/water/electricity or whatever but I think we’re missing the point. If you magically woke up one day and had rightful ownership of this land and this house, presumably getting out of paying housing costs or rent, well, if that happened to me that would be the highest point of my life so far. Solving the problems of all the other stuff you wouldn’t have is still a more realistically solvable problem than trying to make a sustainable income in the face of rigged housing costs in this absolute clown show of a society we live in.
Honestly, I’d be ecstatic with owning any property right now…
The fact that I’m not only not alone in this, but the sentiment is held by a statistically significant percentage of people… That is the problem.
too many spiders
Nah, this and a laptop with 16TB.
Ans offline backups for different wikis and game roms for many gens of consoles and handhelds.
Well that and food. Might need food to survive.
Theres food in the forest, I’ll need a oversized soaking tub.
You gotta pick a fuckton of berries and hunt a lot of squirrels unless you have both the acres and knowledge to actually farm and homestead.
Depending on where you are long pork is an option, people go missing in national parks all the time what’s a few more?
While I was going to make a point about diseases being transmittable through human meat, it did remind me that CWD, or Zombie Deer Disease is raging across now a third of the US or so, and a huge swath of Canada as well. It’s a prion disease, not a virus or bacteria, there is no cure or antidote, cannot be cooked out and can even survive autoclaves, and it’s 100% fatal over time, and we have no real good idea how it’s spreading or how readily it can be transmitted to humans. (There have already been some infections.)
If you do ever end up in the woods, do not eat the deer unless you’re starving and even then, avoid lymph nodes, brains and organ meat generally. Even still they think it can be spread from blood.
I’d spear hunt the boar I don’t like deer.
Been living like this for over a decade in south east asia and its incredible. Got all of my tech gadgets, 1gbps, jungle, beach, rescue dogs and occasional road trip to the city. If you can earn 3k usd/mo remotely you can have all of this too!
Nah, fuck this. This isolationist mentality from larpers is what lead us to this fucking mess. This is fucking terrible, and people shouldn’t be living in this shit, and 99% of those who tried know it.
Counterpoint: I tried and I want to leave this broken society even more now (especially since societal enshitification seems to even accelerate).
Though you still need social contacts (that you really like) to avoid loneliness, so in case you have that, it’s a wonderful, peaceful and healthy way to live more in harmony with nature, but it’s a lot of work nonetheless.
Take it from someone who actually experienced living in a remote isolated place. It’s as far as peaceful, healthy, and quiet lives you can imagine. You’re not a druid from a larp, and you’re not an animal born in a ditch, you will not be in “harmony” with nature, whatever the fuck you mean by it, you will be in a constant opposition to it, in a fight for your life, and “the nature” will consume you in the end. I know you’re not one of those people who actually thrives in that environment, I know it because we’re talking on the internet, and weird forest isolationists don’t talk to other people on the internet.
All that remote hut bullshit is a sham perpetuated by antisocial weirdos and scammers that sell buckets of prep food you can shit in.Ok, right the details are a lot of work to “survive”. In case you’re really completely isolated from society. I agree with that. Definition of harmony is what I probably missed (I did not necessarily mean the romantic understanding of it), you’re a lot more dependent on it. I did though in fact live somewhat remote for some time (as volunteer) and did indeed thrive there, I like hard rather primitive work in nature. The exact circumstances are also important (i.e. does it rain a lot, is climate mild, is winter hard (heating etc.)). But… you actually do stuff that makes sense, as your survival depends on it. Not like having to fix zillions of bugs in an overabstracted frontend, having to deal with incompetent but arrogant and power hungry bosses and all that artificial stress we have put our lives in. Or having to read the non ending negative influx of idiocracy that Trump produces everyday.
I rather like to keep things more fundamental. And I think if you’re up for it (i.e. active/fit, craftly etc.) it can be fullfilling. Obviously it’s not as romantic as you probably imagine most of the time. But I rather like to deal with this than having to get angry about society not seeing that our probably most important problem is climate change and not migrants etc. and not caring enough about it.
😂 poor little guy. What would you even do without DoorDash?!
There’s no way you could hack it, so there’s absolutely no way many, (MANY) other people could!
Oh, a bunch of people really believe they can and should live in isolation from society. Some of them really are. Most of them have or about to have a mental illness that is exacerbated by fearmongering from all the weird groups, and isolation transitions them from kinda weird guys that need a bit of help, to full on psychos. Just look what a little bit of covid isolation did to so many people, and they had zoom.
Of course I couldn’t “hack it” in social isolation, but neither do you, and your doordash comment only shows that you actually have very little idea what you’re talking about.
So, the exurbs?
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Pass, I like being able to walk to the store and concerts and stuff. Maybe with the hydroponics and aeroponics boom everybody can just live in a city and leave nature alone?
In theory cities are more efficient, than living off-grid, I agree.
In reality though if you’re really careful and know what you’re doing (and are really disciplined and have educated yourself), you can live a true carbon neutral life.
All the infrastructure in cities and everything around modern life is just destructive in so many ways unfortunately…
And unfortunately the mass of people don’t care enough, to initiate the necessary systemic changes to make cities truly sustainable…
Reminds me of that guy from the Good Place who ran a snail rehab.
And that is relevant how? I don’t say that it’s a lifestyle for the average person, definitely not.
Because he lived sustainably alone in the woods off of his own filtered piss and a snail filled garden. In the end he did all of that to get into the good place and still didn’t.
It was analogous to the unreachable perfect standard of goodness.
So you’re extrapolating from this single case? As I say, if you know what you’re doing it’s less effort than you think, you let nature do its thing for you and just nudge it in the right direction, so you just harvest the fruits. And yet again, just because that lifestyle isn’t for you it can still be for others…
I’m not extrapolating, this isn’t data, it’s fiction lmao
So in other words you’re trolling and don’t care about being right or wrong…
So you can watch the world turn to fascism in 4k, and have your daily dose of ads and propaganda, while isolated in the woods.
