• BombOmOm@lemmy.world
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    Steam has over 132 million monthly active users

    That month on month Linux expansion is ~422,000 computers. That is a shitload of people switching in just a single month.

    OSes are sticky as hell. People don’t like switching. As Linux attracts these people away from Microsoft, MS is not going to get them back. And importantly, the adoption rate is high enough that many 3rd party companies are taking notice and releasing for both.

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      OSes are sticky as hell. People don’t like switching.

      Every time they buy a new device they have to switch back to linux, because that device with very few exceptions ships with MS.

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      People buying Steam decks are likely the majority of those numbers. They probably ALSO have a Windows machine

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        People buying Steam decks are likely the majority of those numbers.

        The Steam Deck shows up as Arch Linux in the steam numbers; Arch is only 10.7% of the Linux user-base on Steam. And this is on top of the fact desktop Arch Linux is a thing as well sharing space in that line-item.

        The Steam Deck (and Microsoft tomfoolery) certainly was the catalyst for the current wave of adoption, but it is barely a notable percentage of Linux installs on Steam.

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      What do you mean OSes are sticky as hell? I’m currently on Arch, but only because of the AUR. I’m thinking of switching to gentoo because people keep putting malicious packages on the AUR so I might as well do gentoo

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        What do you mean OSes are sticky as hell?

        What are your feelings on switching to a different OS, such as MacOS?

        I’m currently on Arch … I’m thinking of switching to gentoo

        These are both the same OS: Linux. And one of the nice things is Linux lets you switch around so much at-will as you are thinking of doing.

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          I can’t see OS X becoming a daily driver for me, but I don’t mind using it on occasion (it has bash!). Just have to turn off gestures

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      422k out of 132 million

      This is WHY percentages are a thing. Because, on the surface, yeah, that is a very large number. When you look at it relative to the denominator? It is 0.3%. What is the percentage of people who bought Clair Obsura or even just some good old fashioned feet porn?

      Bragging about what is basically a rounding error relative to Windows is the same “it has been the summer of Linux for the past 20 years” that mostly just leads people to write off Linux in general.

      Also, what “many 3rd party companies” are you talking about? Mostly what I have noticed is an increase in “We tested on the Steam Deck” or “we won’t block Proton”. Whereas EA are still actively blocking Proton in the BF6 beta?

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        422k out of 132 million

        It’s all relative. When you bring the time aspect into this, it is a sharp increase compared to previous time periods.

        And it’s subjectively a small number of computers and a large number of computers at the same time, depending on perspective.

        There’s no point in arguing over these stats.

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        what “many 3rd party companies” are you talking about?

        When I switched to Mint about 6 months ago, most of my programs existed on both. And my games just worked. That wasn’t the case just a few years ago.

        Whereas EA are still actively blocking Proton in the BF6 beta?

        I can’t imagine wanting to give EA root access to your entire system, full access to everything you do on your computer…just to play a game. I’m honestly surprised Microsoft still allows such on their platform, it’s a massive vulnerability to users, as CrowdStrike demonstrated.

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          most of my programs existed on both

          Good on you. Plenty of people have many problems because a lot of industry standard tools (e.g. fusion 360 for CAD) don’t exist on Linux and actively break under Wine/Proton

          And my games just worked

          And great (and same). But most of that is just not actively breaking Proton. Which is the Wine team plus Valve.

          As for BF6: the point is that one of THE biggest third party publishers out there has spent the past year or so actively blocking Proton in almost all of their games. And for their new flagship title that they want to be the biggest game ever (ha!), they are already actively blocking Proton again.

          Which goes against the “many 3rd party companies are taking notice and releasing for both”. Which was already not even a thing since the vast majority of those aren’t doing linux binaries (tried that 10 and 20 and 30 years ago…) and are just not actively breaking Proton.

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            Do you not understand that “many” has a different meaning than “all”? Being able to point to one company that is actively blocking Proton doesn’t prove a single thing.

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              Said company being one of the biggest in gaming. Hoyoverse also tend to be varying levels of sketchy towards Proton (I think the current “meta” is to run the android version of Genshin Impact in an emulator?)

              Also, you still haven’t really identified what major 3rd parties are considering Linux a first class citizen versus just not actively blocking Proton and MAYBE testing against one specific SKU (Steam Deck).