Id like lemmings take on how they would actually reduce emissions on a level that actually makes a difference (assuming we can still stop it, which is likely false by now, but let’s ignore that)

I dont think its as simple as “tax billionaires out of existence and ban jets, airplanes, and cars” because thats not realistic.

Bonus points if you can think of any solutions that dont disrupt the 99%'s way of life.

I know yall will have fun with this!

  • SupraMario@lemmy.world
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    21 days ago

    They were used in almost everything that required compressed air to function…from fire extinguishers to refrigeration units, air conditioners, and even hair spray bottles. Entire industries needed to come up with alternatives, with millions of products directly affected.

    That’s not a ton of stuff. They had replacements already in use. Oil is literally in everything we use, and I mean literally everything.

    Sure…fossil fuels are a bigger issue. But that only means that even harder methods are required to force a change.

    Again, good luck.

    Look around you. What gains have we made, by leaving it up to the fossil fuel industry to phase itself out, voluntarily?

    They won’t, and that’s not the argument I have presented at all. I’ve already stated they will fight.

    We already have cheaper alternatives…thanks to the incentives you mentioned.

    Yea no shit, but we’ve not done enough, and thanks to the turnip we’re rolling back a huge portion of those incentives.

    But we are still nowhere near the point of replacing them on any significant scale. That will never happen as long as they are still “allowed” on the market.

    This is completely incorrect. EVs have a much bigger footprint then ever before, solar and wind as well. Nuclear should be next but NIMBYs push it away more than anything.

    You make something that’s cheaper than the alternative, people will choose the cheaper option.

    And like I said. Good luck banning the use of oil.

    • Archangel1313@lemmy.ca
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      21 days ago

      So…what you’re saying is…we will never solve climate change? That is the opposite of what this post was looking for, but cool. Thanks for sharing.

      • SupraMario@lemmy.world
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        21 days ago

        Didn’t say any of that, said the exact opposite but you and apparently others don’t understand how societies work. We have fascist and nationalism solely because of the “ban it” thoughts. You don’t change someone’s mind by force. You provide a better and cheaper way.

          • SupraMario@lemmy.world
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            20 days ago

            Before trump? Pretty well, EVs became much more common because of grants and funds. Wind and solar is cheaper now than nat. Gas and coal because of funding that pushed the tech further. We just need more funding put towards it. Good luck banning oil.

            • Archangel1313@lemmy.ca
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              20 days ago

              And none of that slowed down oil and gas production, at all. Did it? Why would it? The oil and gas industry makes billions in profit, every year…largely due to the subsidies and grants provided by the government. They are funding the problem, along with the solutions.

              So, of course, they are never going away. Climate change is only going to continue to get worse, because no one is willing to do what’s actually necessary in order to change anything.

              It doesn’t matter how many alternatives there are available. They aren’t going to stop producing it, unless they are forced to.