The Intel 285K CPU in my high-end 2025 Linux PC died again! 😡 Notably, this was the replacement CPU for the original 285K that died in March, and after reading through the reviews of Intel CPUs on my electronics store of choice, many of which (!) mention CPU replacements, I am getting the impression that Intel’s current CPUs just are not stable 😞. Therefore, I am giving up on Intel for the coming years and have bought an AMD Ryzen 9950X3D CPU instead.
The article (or one of the linked ones) says the max design temperature is 105°C, so it doesn’t throttle until it hits that.
Which makes me think it should be able to sustain operating at that temperature. If not, Intel fucked up by speccing them too high.
I’d expect it to still throttle before getting to 105C, and then adjust to maintain a temp under 105C. If it goes above 105C, it should halt.
Then you misunderstand the spec. That’s the max operating temperature, not the thermal protection limit. It throttles at 105 so it doesn’t hit the limit at 115 or whatever and shut down. I can’t find a detailed spec sheet that might give an exact figure.
The chip needs to account for thermal runaway, so I’d expect it to throttle before reaching max operating temperature and then adjust so it stays within that range. So it should downclock a little around 90C or whatever, the increase as needed as it approaches 105C or whatever the max operating temp is. If it goes above that temp, it should aggressively throttle or halt, depending how how far above it went and how quickly.
No it shouldn’t slow down at 90C, it should clock up until it can sustain exactly 105C and stay there. That’s the optimal performance point.
Again, you misunderstand. The max operating temperature is where Intel has stated that the CPU can safely operate for extended periods of time, including accounting for situations like thermal runaway (though ideally they engineer the chip that that doesn’t happen in the first place).
If that situation does occur, the chip attempts to throttle at 105, and if that fails then it presumable halts at whatever the protection threshold is before it hits the actual damage point, as I said.
Interesting, so it only throttles at that temp? That’d a bit different than how AMD handles it IIRC, which think stops boosting around 80C or so and throttles around 90C, and the max operating temp is closer to 100C.
The 7000 series had the Intel behavior of just clocking up until like 95C and staying there indefinitely
That’s why people thought the 9000 series was disappointment - AMD went back to balancing power efficiency and performance
Yes.
Whether Intel fucked up by saying “oh yeah works great up to 105” if that isn’t actually true is another question, as I mentioned.
My intel mac’s cpu (i5-5250U) throttles to maintain 105 C