I wonder if this is more common among Linux users. If an application has good keyboard support, I’m ALL over that instead of using a mouse. That’s one reason web applications really annoy me, they usually have terrible keyboard support, or the browser shortcuts interfere.
Maybe detest is too strong a word. More like I prefer to avoid it if at all possible (unless it’s something like CAD or most gaming where the mouse is basically essential)
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Soooo, you don’t like using a mouse except when using a mouse is easier.
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No, only when it requires it (point and shoot, point and draw). But a lot of things id much rather use a keyboard to navigate and its frustrating when there is no support for it
And yeah, you’re going to be left behind in a lot of applications because most people prefer the point and click interface to KB shortcuts. It is what it is, I guess. Can’t you just use emacs as your environment though? (I use vi, so it’s alien to me)
edit: lol, guess not
Oh hell naw, I love to sit back, one hand resting on an arm rest, and just navigating with my mouse. Not that I mind using the keyboard, but I have a strong affinity to the mouse. I know the keyboard is “more efficient”, but I’m just more comfortable pointing at things.
I’ve never had a job where the bottleneck was the speed of translating my thoughts into commands. It’s almost always the thinking that slows me down. I’m sort of jealous of folks who deal with so few unknowns that they are limited only by speed of input (though I’d find that a mind-numbingly boring job — compared to my usual constant imposter syndrome and suspicion that there is a better way to do something than what is in my head right now).
I worked on an old CAD program in the early 90s, it had hotkeys for the menu structure. After some time ( and memorization) they became much faster than mouse clicks. When getting designs out as fast as possible, to keep the shop busy, was the mandate it led to designers flying across the keys building geometry, trimming, dimensioning etc. After about 4 years though RSI became a problem for all of use.
I have a preference towards keyboard shortcuts, but I dont think I’m in any way anti-mouse, I’m just very pro-keyboard. If there is a quick easy keyboard shortcut, I’ll almost always use it.
Honestly, back in the windows 8 days, I never understood the backlash about the start screen/menu. My workflow was “hit windows key, type name of app. hit enter” and that workflow didnt change with the full screen mobile centric menu, so it never felt problematic to me. Plenty of other problematic things about microsoft and windows, but “But the start menu is full screen!” wasnt one of them for me.
Yes. It was fine when it was used to enhance 100% keyboard operable interfaces (outside of 2d spacial interfaces like drawing) but when it became dominant and keyboard controls stopped being universal, something important was lost.
My last company had two primary software products. The one customers always opted for was the green-screen version, like something out of 1989 with an AS400 backend. Funny thing is, the backend was IBM’s latest version of the 400. :)
Had a couple of customer service and tech support jobs in the 90s using such systems. Once you get the hang of the menu tree, you can haul ass through tasks. When our customers would go for the GUI product, they’d immediately revert back to the green screen.
Personally, I have challenges remembering key combinations and thus only use a few. Often, the timevitvtakes to retrieve the right keyboard equivalent takes longer than using the mouse, and often I have to use the mouse to lookup the key combo.
I need to be using a particular tool very frequently to muscle memory the key codes.
I use both comfortably depending on the task.
git checkout dev & git pullis very easy to type.git checkout dev-CHG03451-make_sky_turquoiseis going to be way easier to mouse in my ide, but then I’ll switch right back togit merge dev:wqLinux is also my main driver, so all my (desktop) web browsing and interaction are done with a mouse. It doesn’t make sense to be all that worried about keyboard-maxing.
Kensington TB550 thumb trackball for any pointy/clicky stuff, keyboard otherwise.
I don’t like a real mouse, and haven’t for decades.
I got my first thumb trackball in the 1990s when I didn’t have a big enough desk to use a mouse. It was a Logitech Trackman Marble.
Then I got a Marble Wheel. Then the cordless one, then the M570 that replaced it.
But Logitech build quality has really went into the shitter, and after a warranty replacement, and then having to buy another replacement, I tried a couple of different thumb trackballs before settling on my Kensington one.
The ProtoArc EM01 I have is also nice, but I like the feel of the Kensington better.
Not really no?
On the contrary, I use the Gesturefy extension on Firefox because for some reason I find drawing a squiggle to duplicate a tab easier to remember than whatever the keyboard shortcut isPreferring to avoid the mouse is a pretty common attitude among Linux users, just because keeping your hands on the keyboard is quicker.
Seriously depends on the application. Having to use a mouse to navigate three menu levels down for a function that could be done with a keyboard shortcut is a point where a mouse is the wrong tool. But try to get something done in a graohics program with keys only.
Yes I do. Nvim / dwm life.
Still gotta have it for web browsing though. Vimium is kinda stupid and qutebrowser never worked quite like I expected, like most minimal browsers or extensions unfortunately.
All you laptop folks are like aliens to me lol. I have one, but it’s rarely used unless I have to leave my lair.
The thing I don’t like to do is move my hand from keyboard to mouse a lot.
I love the mouse, for me it’s far faster than remembering key shortcuts or CLI stuff, and just feels a lot more natural to use.
i use my linux desktop for gaming so i really rely on the mouse.
but i exclusively use the nipple on my thinkpad to the point i can’t use a regular trackpad anymore.
touchscreens are the worst.
I hate the mouse, but not in the way you mean. I use a touchpad.
Oof. I do loathe touchpads. I’ll never understand you people ! ;)
