When politicians talk about how trans people are subhuman or deranged or biblically evil, it contributes to trans people being stigmatized and depressed. As a result of this culture of cruelty, many trans people end up committing suicide.

Where are the corporations firing these people? Just because trans teens sometimes commit suicide quietly behind closed doors does not make the violence somehow less terrible.

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      I did that. The top comment was a troll and the thread was feeding the troll and people were reporting each other. Here is the modlog for the top comment.

      Removed Comment: Since this is lemmy nobody can disagree with this opinion or post stats that discredit it without a ban.

      reason: This is trolling. You are welcome to make claims and cite sources. This thread did neither of those. It was just bickering. Here is an example of claims with sources https://lemmy.world/comment/19389340

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      Lemmy mods have always been just as quick to ban and remove as reddit mods, if not faster. Although I feel like it varies more widely because of all the different instances.

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        I was part of that, an edgy user tried to say that you can’t ban speech because no speech is harmful

        I told him, “degenerates like you belong in camps,” to show how speech is indeed harmful

        They got buttmad and clutched pearls instead of taking a step back and self reflecting, this is all I have left from the exchange:

        Seems like the mods nuked the whole thing because they’re lazy.

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          Your comment was in a different thread. I did remove your comment. I didn’t nuke that thread.

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    Yes, this is their intention. You know that right? They want to unalive them without going to jail. So the plan is to get them to do it to themselves.

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      Murder. Kill. Execute. Compel or coerce to take one’s own life. Use the actual words and terms for it, and not the weird censorship circumvention language.

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    A hate crime that apparently carries 0 consequences across the globe. We live in a fucked up world

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    I think, in the literal sense you are correct, it is a legal form of violence. But what are you proposing? Saying you hate trans people, you don’t respect them (I’ve never heard conservatives actually call them “subhuman” but it probably does happen) etc. is reprehensible but it’s not illegal, and preventing people from saying mean things to one another is a pretty extreme form of censorship. If I make fun of someone and they later commit suicide should I be charged with a crime?

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        Yea but what part of American government would you trust to restrict the speech you don’t like (and only that speech)? In the UK you’ve got the government arresting people for protesting in support of those guys that sprayed paint into the jet engines.

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      Pretty sure its just hate and the vast majority of them don’t even know what medical science can do for a trans person. The vast majority of people who transition do not regret it which leads me to believe the treatment is more than some depressing impossible goal.

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        Gender reassignment surgery is still classified as “cosmetic surgery” in the US

        And it has the lowest rate of regret of any cosmetic surgeries.

        So it’s more likely a patient would regret a face lift or lip filler over chopping their dick or tits off.

        It really puts it into perspective how popular and reliable these procedures are for affirming people’s gender

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      And there’s a third way of looking at it, where people who shouldn’t have an opinion about it at all are suddenly full of right-wing talking points that don’t align with science and reality.

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      How is wanting to exist and living their life impossible to achieve?

      Unless you mean it is impossible because of those narrow minded folks who still think that they want to change to something they aren’t already.

      All they want is their right to exist without being told of being not valid.

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    You seem to put the onus of trans killing themselves on everyone around them and not the inner turmoil of their own minds outwith any bullying.

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      The person who is ridiculed because they are different, disowned from their families because they can’t meet the demands of pretending to be someone they are not, denied the social accommodation that makes their lives comfortable, refused housing because of how they look, denied the health care that helps them feel centered because it creeps out the people who do not have their condition… How can their mind be still?

      Trans health is dependent on the people around us the same way your health is dependent on the people around you. Trans joy is as possible as trans suffering. The difference is in other people allowing it to happen.

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      I got my dream job offer rescinded two weeks ago BECAUSE I AM TRANS.

      I have experienced sexual violence BECAUSE I AM TRANS.

      I am terrified of being pulled over by a cop and institutionalized or incarcerated because the government says that my license is wrong now.

      The problem is not my mental state. The problem is the discrimination.

      If I killed myself, it would to be to avoid becoming homeless - because, like many trans people, there are substantial barriers to employment. It doesn’t matter if the Supreme Court said it’s illegal to fire people for being trans, it fucking happens.

      My mental health would be peachy fucking keen if I were not part of the marginalized minority group that the government is so slavering to make a target that they tried to pretend the Kirk shooter carved trans propaganda into his bullets! They want to kill us or institutionalize us - how the fuck would your mental health be if you were walking around with a target on your back?

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      Man, you would not handle being a minority.

      You know how every day the society you live in DOESN’T tell you it hates you and that it wants you to die?

      I get it we usually don’t notice things that don’t happen to us, but cmon -_-