Great, we’re already fucking up this planet let’s go fuck up the rest of the solar system too.

I’d like to thank you again for your insights. It sounds like you exercise a lot of self control and have thought about this meticulously which unfortunately many parents do not. I agree that theres value in children experiencing and understanding fear in a controlled environment.

Ultimately I do want them to experience and better understand fear though I certainly don’t want them to fear me. I’m still hoping I can impart those lessons without threatening their bodily autonomy since it is personally a hard line for me (just from personal experiences and the psychological issues it caused). But time will tell, mine have yet to enter the stage of chaos and irrationality known as toddlerhood haha.

This is an area with a ton of debate and I appreciate your insights. I was on the receiving end of corporal punishment growing up and have chosen not continue that cycle. That doesn’t mean that my child will grow up without consequences, which is I think what most posters are frustrated with here.

According to the World Health Organization:

Evidence shows corporal punishment harms children’s physical and mental health, increases behavioural problems over time, and has no positive outcomes.

All corporal punishment, however mild or light, carries an inbuilt risk of escalation. Studies suggest that parents who used corporal punishment are at heightened risk of perpetrating severe maltreatment

Corporal punishment is linked to a range of negative outcomes for children across countries and cultures, including physical and mental ill-health, impaired cognitive and socio-emotional development, poor educational outcomes, increased aggression and perpetration of violence.

There is also evidence that fear based parenting can lead to anxiety, depression, behavioral problems, and poor self-esteem and sows mistrust and emotional distance between parent and child. I can personally attest to experiencing quite a few of these in relation to corporal punishment.

Now it sounds like you are using fear judiciously and to each their own. But I am determined to find another way, while also making consequences aa clear as possible. Age 1 to 3 is difficult for everyone since the child is mobile and exploratory but has very little reasoning capabilities.

Agreed, that’s unacceptable.

There is essentially universal agreement in the field of child psychology that “beating” your child is the wrong approach.

I’ve yet to meet a parent that completely ignores their child in a public venue. In many cultures children are considered to be a part of society / community and so they are given some autonomy to discover the world with their peers. Hyper individualistic Western society is really the odd one out here and Western cultures are the only ones where I’ve seen this take expressed openly. Conclude from that what you will.

India was a socialist country until around the collapse of the USSR when it became insolvent and the International Monetary Fund (Western nations led by the US) did its usual “we’ll give you a loan if open your market and become more capitalist like us or you can starve and die” which brought about the Indian economy of today, the good and bad.

For a more in depth look into the struggle of post colonial nations I recommend the book Why Nations Fail. It goes into how colonial powers (Britain in the case of India) left behind exclusionary institutions that screw over ordinary people and how, when freedom was attained at the end of WW2, these institutions have persisted to the present day. The difference being that local elites (those that acquiesced to colonial powers) now control them as they continue to have potentially harmful impacts.

I mean this as respectfully as possible but what compelled you to marry a man from the 1700s?

Sounds like you need to talk some sense into your husband.

Capitalism absolutely but philosophical objectivism and materialism are also issues. You have to have some sort of spiritual belief in the sanctity of life for a society to be sustainable. Spiritual not necessarily in a religious sense. Moreso an understanding that we are all interconnected (the antithesis of Western individualism).

Let’s just say the enlightment period had some good ideas and brought about positive change, especially in the short term, but the wisdom of that philosophical thought is not all encompassing, even though people (especially Westerners) often treat it like it is.

I’d imagine generational wealth matters more than location. Also don’t know if someone with more melanin than this child would want Norway lol. Urban US/Canada would be vastly superior in terms of high development index without being stared at like you just landed from Mars.