It was a got damn stunt, offc

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    The fix is in, and TikTok is now just another implement in Trump and Elon’s disinformation machine. Crazy times, our country is literally being run by the top social media platforms.

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      Yes, before this it was run by regular media platforms.

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        Key word being “literally”

        Did you do your part to vote against Trump?

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    The AP is supposed to be a neutral source, but they are decidedly right leaning.

    There is clear, relevant reporting to be done on how odd the structure of all this is and that the app’s self imposed shutdown message specifically praised trump, by name. They buried a photo of it, but I don’t see direct text in the article discussing that. They also don’t mention the fact that the CEO had been privately meeting with trump recently.

    They say Biden had a part in the ban, though he said publicly he would not enforce it - what matters there, that AP doesn’t mention, is that the republicans held humanitarian aide to Ukraine hostage back in April, saying they’d block unless the tick tok ban was passed. Laying the groundwork for this hollow attempt to “blame Biden” and position trump as a solution (to a problem he instigated and that republican think tanks engineered).

    They do say the CEO will attend and have a “prime seating location” but not clarifying that the seats he’ll be in are typically reserved for living past US presidents.

    Fucking joke.

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      They say Biden had a part in the ban, though he said publicly he would not enforce it - what matters there, that AP doesn’t mention, is that the republicans hello humanitarian aide to Ukraine hostage back in April, saying they’d block unless the rock you ban was passed. Laying the groundwork for this hollow attempt to “blame Biden” and position trunk as a solution (to a problem he instigated and that republican think tanks engineered).

      You’re making an important point here, but it’s somewhat undermined by the fact that your rogue auto[in]correct needs to be taken out behind the barn and shot.

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        Ha, wonderful! Corrected, thanks for pointing that out.

        Note: I had to manually correct the auto"correct" for just about every word on that small sentence above (and in this note)

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      So your defense of Biden signing the ban is that he had to because it was tied to arming far-right Nazis in Europe? And you think this is a good argument?

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    2 months ago

    Spreading for awareness, I’ve been posting this in relevant threads for a week - This is all theater.

    trump was always going to “save” tik tok after starting the initial push to ban it (for the wrong reasons) to pretend he did something for you. Worst part is that all of the no/low info voters and non voters will eat it up.

    It’s the equivalent of a person pushing you into the middle of the street and at the very last second, that same person tells the drivers to all stop. “Wow, I owe you my life!”

    And now, this adds two layers:

    1. You think trump and the Supreme Court are colluding? now they get to say, nah uh!!! Even though again, this is all convoluted.

    2. trump gets to look “stronger” than the “highest court in the land” to help delude the next generation of low info tiktok folks.

    P.s. The Chinese “protest” apps that were downloaded are going to mine the FUCK out of these millions of phones in the brief window they have them. Also, when the kids inevitably move back to tiktok, majority of them will still leave these other apps installed on their phones, dormant and collecting indefinitely in the background.

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      People like you really don’t get it. You can’t wrap your head around people not caring about their data.

      There are people DYING because they don’t have access to affordable healthcare. There are families forced to live in section 8 housing because they can’t afford to feed their family and have a place to live at the same time. Our children are DYING in school while the police sit outside and watch. WE DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT OUR DATA.

      This whole debacle should infuriate every single American. 85% of congress voted to disenfranchise 150 MILLION Americans. These assholes can’t agree on anything but they can agree on this. It’s a travesty that our elected officials can spoon feed you some bullshit about China and you forget how they don’t care about you.

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        You don’t realize how your data not being secure contributes to all of the problems you list.

        I imagine the issue is that you think “your data” means that list of your “5 favorite types of hats” you posted yesterday or that mp3 of dogs barking happy birthday on your phone - yes, that is data, but it’s not really what we’re talking about here. Your data collectively, in a profile that is bought and sold, is like your DNA - it is the blueprint to exactly who you are, where/why you are weak and when/how to manipulate you.

        I appreciate your passion, but your blind rage here is misplaced and frankly, your position is severely ignorant of the reality you’re currently operating in, in several key areas. You also seem to have wholly constructed an adversarial relationship here where you try to frame me as in support of our Congress, I am not. I don’t agree with how this bill was assembled, lobbied or passed in Congress. I do understand some of the nuance though, so I consider that. As I’ve said, after trump introduced a tiktok ban as a pure racist distraction without any actual substance, republican think tanks took the ball and engineered this situation as a trap, so they could attack either outcome from democrats (because they are feckless, grifting cowards). Key tactic within that strategy was when Republicans held Ukraine aid hostage on the condition that they wouldn’t approve spend unless the tiktok bill was allowed as well. So Congress reluctantly passed it, and Biden signed it and then he made an official statement that he or his administration would not enforce it (essentially saying, we were forced into this bullshit). So at that point, you’re talking about innocent human lives under an active terrorist attack from Russia in the balance.

        Again, there’s a lot here you don’t understand it seems. I welcome you to breathe a bit, slow down and have a discussion. Happy to chat if you need.

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          Sorry to be a pedant about little things, but while you’re fixing typos, it’s “aid” not “aide”. I just mention it because it really changes the sense of “holding aid hostage.”

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            Not at all. I can’t say if autocorrect did this or my own mistake, but either way should be corrected now. Thank you for the note.

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        And people like you don’t get that the worsening of all those problems will only accelerate under Trump’s corrupt plutocracy.

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    Note that the law does not prohibit TikTok from operating. It prohibits companies like Google and Apple from distributing it, and according to this article, they are in fact not distributing it.

    Even as TikTok was flickering back on, it remained unavailable for download in Apple and Google’s app stores.

    TikTok shut off voluntarily and that appears to have been an excellent PR move, but we won’t know for certain until Trump does or doesn’t do something about it in the next few days.

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      TikTok may trust Trump but Apple and Google are much better off acting like the law is in force and could be used against them.

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        TikTok also was and still is acting like the law is in force - the law does not require it to shut off. They aren’t taking any legal risk.

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    Gaza ceasefire and reversed TikTok ban. He’s basically won over younger voters before he’s even started.

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      It’s as if plutocrats worldwide are teeing up fake wins to help Trump solidify his power because they see an opportunity to kill off liberalism once and for all.

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    This is more like, yet another PR flattery stunt, that Trump enjoyed in his first term too. Unclear that it means Tik Tok is going to help him get a 3rd term, or censor criticism of him.

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      Can you walk me through that? You think that Trump’s team coordinated with Biden to make him sign the ban for Trump’s benefit?

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    The only way his ban evasion will work is if they find a buyer in 90 days

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      Or Trump keeps extending it or the newly formed Congress rolls back the law or the corrupt Supreme Court changes its mind or or or.

      They entire US government is a game of oligarchic Calvinball.

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      Uhhh, Trump is literally the executive.

      He just commands the FCC or other authorities to ignore TikTok. He can extend this ban evasion for all 4 years if he wants.

      Congress and Supreme Court do not control the executive powers. The President does.

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      As long as he can make money off of tiktok (either through videos or bribes) he’ll keep extending it.

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    This story has lots more to run. Trump is giving them a 90 day reprieve but hes going to try and extract something from them.

    I suspect he will still try and get them to sell to one of his cronies. And bytedance won’t do that.

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    The decomcrats are fucking morons for allowing Trump to take credit for this. This was the obvious outcome and was easily preventable.

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    GOOD! I’m looking Forward to Trump RESTORING this App that he said was CHYNESE SPYWARE being used to Hurt Americans!

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    I’m way more interested in the reactions of Google, Apple, Oracle, and the dozens of other corporations ByteDance depends on.

    The “90-day extension” Trump keeps talking about has no basis in law except to conclude an in-process divestment, which currently doesn’t exist. He can order the law not to be enforced, but you’re still breaking the law. It’ll interesting to see if those companies are willing to along with an executive order their counsel knows is illegal or are willing to knowingly break the law under the promise they won’t be prosecuted (for now).

    edit: IANAL