Anyone who thinks this was about getting AI working was the idiot from the start, there still isn’t even a real use-case for it. This was always about funneling huge amounts of money from the government budget to a bunch of rich assholes. The outcome doesn’t matter at all here.
there still isn’t even a real use-case for it
There are several real use cases for it, it’s just that they’re worth like ten bucks a month to me all together and OpenAI is running at a loss while charging… *checks notes* 200 dollars per month for their top tier model?
Venture capitalists using the US gov as their new marketing platform is a joke in it self.
What’s next? Is the next White House briefing gonna be in a stadium, with laser show, motivational music and some ponce going on stage to hype people up?
Griftonomics has reached the upper levels, y’all.
Exactly. Just look at Intel and the CHIPS Act.
most of that ‘hundreds of billions’ isn’t going to go towards the tech or infrastructure, it’s gonna go to people. a very small number of specific individuals.
Deepseek api is down today - probably a result of their viral success recently…
“Necessity is the mother of invention.”
What you’re likely seeing here is innovation similar to the early tech sector. The hardware limitation (no Nvidia chips) means different (usually more complex) solutions are needed.
These solutions usually require a deep understanding of a specific area of mathematics, and expertise in coding. The person making it normally has to be heavily invested, since it still eats a lot of hours.
I often joke, the mathematician who finds a faster algorithm for matrix operations is sitting on a billion dollar idea.
And that mathematician won’t see the profits for that faster algorithm and you will never hear their name - shits been happening in tech for decades
As a mathematician who has worked in tech, this I am very much aware of XD
Yeah obviously we’ve completely lost the plot a long time ago. Nobody even remembers when tech was bands of ragtag nerds making something out of nothing. Now they are the rich whose only purpose to is extract more wealth. Tech what? Who even knows anymore.
That includes the average tech workers. If that angers you then you’re lost too.
Nobody has noticed that there’s more bragging about compensation than accomplishments. It used to be the other way around. Nerds eagerly showing off to anyone who will listen about whatever thing they cooked up. It’s been this way for the past long time long before this LLM AI era.
Yeah, give me a /technology/ sub that speaks about technology (have you heard about the esp-8266? Did you know a A4988 can steer a NEMA from a Raspberry pi? And even The 6 gen SSD can move X GB/s, what is the fastest quad core under 100$?) and not about funding and drama.
Or am I out of touch with reality :-) ?
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It’s because this wave of tech overlords rode in on the coattails of the actual smart group. No one in this new group has actual built/coded/designed anything good. Everything they actual get involved with is garbage. Musk Cyber truck and Zuck metaverse as two examples. Bezos isn’t even the CEO of Amazon anymore, and he had pretty much be letting Andy Jassy run AWS/Amazon for close to 2 decades anyway.
The US is getting owned by China left and right, but sure lets focus on abusing minorities, women, LGBTQ+, and the poor instead of investing on actually making America great. Whatever.
“If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored [gay, trans, Hispanic, etc ] man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”
LBJ
Maybe they try to imitate china on those topics?
Of course it’s faster & cheaper when it’s being censored & can’t access half of human history because the fucking ccp finds it offensive.
As opposed to reddit censoring Israel genociding Palestine and Luigi ?
Reddit is total trash too.
The model itself is probably not censored. The censorship comes on top. Preliminary tests already show how this can be circumvented.
Again, this is all fucking stupid. China is giving this shit away for free to absolutely own the US for spending money on stupid fucking things like this.
Its good for the consumer. If companies like deepseek weren’t just tossing them out there for anyone to use, Microsoft and Google would currently have a monopoly and it would all be subscription type services.
It also greatly reduces whatever chance the copyright shills have of legislating against it.
It’s not good consumers at all, at least no explicitly. There are already open and free LLM models out there anyone can use that are just as good as OpenAI, for example.
What this is: a pretty simple deathblow to completely collapse the bullshit AI bubble in the US that was created by a bunch of wealthy idiots trying to fleece people out of money. Plain and simple.
While I’m happy that this pretty much destroys the business of OpenAI and the others, this bullshit funding by executive order is a bailout for those people, right out in the open. It’s a classic Trump scam. Nobody will ever see where the money is going, and it’s taxpayer dollars going right back into the banks of millionaires billionaires who were about lose the their asses for investing in this stupid shit in the first place.
I don’t really follow. Open source is still a net benefit regardless of the goverments investment in closed source, especially for the consumer.
I agree it’s highly likely there’s a scam going on but healthy competition will probably force them to actually use some of the fund. If they had a monopoly, it would be easier to give us a minimal viable product and call it a sound investment. They can’t be too blatant about it after all.
I mean Meta opened up Llama for free a while ago. But at the end of the day, the AI models posed to actually impact things are those integrated or integrateable into workflows, and those are all still more or less locked down.
We’re Fiscally RESPOSIBLE!
The Chinese model has chain of thought that u can see. The model when asked to talk about chinas atrocities will go through a chain of though process outlining all the atrocities then conclude its not allowed to tell u. Cool technology tho I’m just waiting for a dolphin fine tuning.
Yeah all the info is there and something switches it over to the generic response.
So fucked.
I’ve been playing around with the offline version of the model. It’s interesting, but I think we’ll have to wait for people to tinker with the open source base for awhile before we get something really great.
I’m using the 8b model and it’s having no problem telling me about China’s atrocities.
well I mean the USA’s president is a scammer so I am not surprised he is involved in stuff where scammers are abundant nowadays like crypto and AI
“Earlier this week, DeepSeek unveiled its R1 model, which, the startup claims, meets, if not exceeds, performance from OpenAI’s o1 model released last year. (o1 is designed to tackle reasoning and math problems.)” — Oh, so China built their for math and we built ours for garbage. Interesting approach.
Building garbage and convincing people it is absolutely necessary to pay someone for it is the American way.
Almost as if one culture values education and actual problem solving while the other values spectical and sleight of hand.
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It kinda sucks it is very repetitive if you use it to craft a story
This is going to sound wild, but why not use your brain for creativity, and use the the machine for crunching numbers?
Yeah but why you even using AI for stuff like that? If we got to have AI then we should use it for actually useful stuff and not pointless activities that no one will care about in 10 years.
Remember when Bluetooth came out and they had to stick Bluetooth in everything, even if it was completely pointless, currently AI is being treated like that.
It is great to spark ideas if you’re writing
Yeah, I have an issue of detail and such and I’ve had a dnd/tabletop world I want to flesh out and eventually dm, but suck at some details or linking things I want to do together.
Been slowly making a base of material for it and plan to eventually use various LLMs to link things and flesh out the world, taking whatever it gives me as a base to work off of for those parts.
People here forgot that Xi personally writes for Fortune
