The “privacy-first” company surprised its user base when CEO Andy Yen lauded Trump on social media.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/30934764

The “privacy-first” company surprised its user base when CEO Andy Yen lauded Trump on social media.

  • katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    26·
    2 days ago

    The fact that a privacy company based in a non five eyes country is even praising a government - especially one like the US - is a red flag.

    Nevermind the fact that they claim Republicans are anti big tech while being surrounded by tech CEOs…

  • Fizz@lemmy.nzEnglish
    341·
    2 days ago

    Cancelled my Proton subscription citing this as the reason. Hope others do the same. This administration is not normal and relations should never be normalized with them.

    • karpintero@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      1 day ago

      Yep, did the same. Started using Tuta for email, solid privacy and UI, app available on F-Droid, and the bonus for me was them being powered by renewables.

      The language in the tweet was telling, i.e party of the “little guys” and tagging the president for visibility. You can’t turn a blind eye to all the other destabilizing things this admin is doing just because they made 1 semi-competent cabinet pick (which should be the baseline expectation).

  • Godort@lemm.eeEnglish
    1249·
    2 days ago

    “We’re not liberal or conservative, we’re a secret third thing!(conservative)”

  • tabular@lemmy.worldEnglish
    601·
    2 days ago

    This is not an ad
    Enter email to receive emails

    I disagree, Mr Website.

  • DigDoug@lemmy.worldEnglish
    362·
    2 days ago

    I’ve been looking in to degoogling and was considering Protonmail before this. Does anybody know of a good alternative? Espeically one that lets you have multiple email addresses?

    • tburkhol@lemmy.worldEnglish
      17·
      2 days ago

      I bit the bullet this month & bought a domain so I can assign mail handling and change providers without changing my email address. Currently using https://purelymail.com/ because they’re $10/year for as many addresses & domains as you want “within reason.” It’s apparently just one guy with some AWS instances, but it was very straightforward to set up.

      • PetteriPano@lemmy.worldEnglish
        6·
        2 days ago

        +1 for purelymail.

        I’ve had my personal domain on gmail and most recently proton. Proton got too pricy when I wanted to add another couple of domains. After some research I landed on purelymail, and it’s been smooth sailing to set up and use.

      • lemmeBe@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        21·
        2 days ago

        The same applies to what I commented about Mxroute - Purelymail doesn’t cater to users who require end-to-end encryption, advanced privacy features, or those who need built-in security measures beyond standard email protocols, as it’s primarily focused on reliable email delivery and hosting rather than security-first communication.

        Tuta would be a viable alternative to Proton.

        • tburkhol@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          2 days ago

          Yeah, I considered E2EE. Even set up PGP keys in Thunderbird and installed https///mailvelope.com . For E2EE to really be viable, your correspondents have to comply, and none of the people I email with have any interest. I even email with someone on proton, and they always reply to me in the clear.

          • lemmeBe@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            1·
            2 days ago

            I mean, as far as I’m concerned, if not for all the websites that ask for email to register, I wouldn’t be using it. No personal comms go via email.

      • obolstitelkisok@lemmy.worldEnglish
        22·
        2 days ago

        What do you mean by “I bought a domain”? Is the domain has been rented or there is someone who sells domain for life and heritage?

    • coherent_domain@infosec.pubEnglish
      9·
      2 days ago

      I have tuta, bitwarden, firefox relay, and libreoffice, seems to work decently. I am also considering getting a mullvald vpn, but not sure how well it works with torrenting, since they no longer support port-forward.

      • lemmeBe@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        6·
        2 days ago

        Using Mullvad, I stay connected to it 24/7. I’ve no problems with torrenting. It costs 5€/month. Maybe try it out to see if it’ll suit you as well.

          • TaiCrunch@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            1·
            2 days ago

            I have my qbittorrent container set up the same way, no issues. Only minor inconvenience I have now is having to manually renew my subscription every month because they stopped storing payment information (good!).

      • Fizz@lemmy.nzEnglish
        11·
        2 days ago

        Does bitwarden have a browser extension for firefox?

          • Fizz@lemmy.nzEnglish
            11·
            20 hours ago

            Yeah true, but then other people who are thinking about making the switch would also have to ask that question or Google. Plus sometimes the browser extensions are exist but are shit. The human recommendation holds more weight.

            I’m coping hard with that response

    • Essence_of_Meh@lemmy.worldEnglish
      112·
      2 days ago

      If you only care about email (and calendar, I guess) Tuta is a pretty good choice. I’ve been using it for years and had only one problem very early on. Additional aliases are only available with the paid plan (€3 a month) however, same as Proton I believe.

      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        7·
        2 days ago

        Yup.

        Tuta works well for me for the past year or so, so I recently switched to their annual plan. I used Proton for a couple years (paid plan) and preferred it, but they raised the price so I bailed. The €3 plan from Tuta is more than enough for me.

        • Essence_of_Meh@lemmy.worldEnglish
          5·
          2 days ago

          I’m still on a legacy plan (which still feels like a really good deal despite some small concessions compared to the new plans) but yeah, even with the new prices it’s definitely worth it.

          Also, while not strictly email focused but they have a blog with articles about various privacy related topics and news - it’s a pretty neat source of info, especially for those less knowledgeable about this stuff.

    • Cris@lemmy.worldEnglish
      7·
      2 days ago

      I have pretty good experience with Tutanota an bitwarden as the most direct alternatives

      Tutanota apps lack a bit of polish but the UI looks reasonably nice and gets the job done. Bitwarden has treated me pretty well.

    • karpintero@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      2 days ago

      After digging around, I’m going to try Tuta for email/calendar and Mullvad for VPN. Tuta’s €3 plan lets you have 15 additional addresses and 3 custom domains.

      Anyone using a good proton drive alternative?

      • DreamlandLividity@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5·
        2 days ago

        Anyone using a good proton drive alternative?

        I run Synology NAS at home and I love it, but it was expensive to set up.

        Other extreme is Syncthing for completely free device sync, but no backup beyond your devices and both devices must be online to sync.

        I self-hosted Nextcloud on cloudamo with Cryptomator for e2ee but I can’t really recommend it. Nextcloud is pain to administer and tends to be buggy.

    • Josie@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      22·
      2 days ago

      im using a nextcloud host called murena. you could probably use an equally good one or self host, but i found the free next cloud host sign up tool too buggy to use.

      main draw of next cloud for me is you can use features like third party clients and calendar sharing without having to manually prepare for account downgrade if you want a lower tier, and in fact the only difference between tiers is storage

      note that im not clear how good their encryption is, it seems not to be fully end to end encrypted

  • vastard@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
    4·
    2 days ago

    I’m in a pickle. Got proton and my own domain for email so I would be able to make an easy switch… but now I have masked emails for dozens if not hundreds of account logins.

    • lemmeBe@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      71·
      2 days ago

      MXroute doesn’t cater to users who require end-to-end encryption, advanced privacy features, or those who need built-in security measures beyond standard email protocols, as it’s primarily focused on reliable email delivery and hosting rather than security-first communication.

      Tuta would be a viable alternative to Proton.

      • smitten@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        31·
        2 days ago

        No they don’t, but I never switched to proton for that. I switched to proton to get away from iCloud. I also never loved the idea of them keeping my gpg key in the cloud, I can just as easily do e2e with mxroute in a more secure way

      • heavydust@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        32·
        2 days ago

        security measures beyond standard email protocols

        Doesn’t exist. The only security you can have is if you use OpenPGP. Everything else is marketing and lies.

  • ZeroOne@lemmy.worldEnglish
    923·
    2 days ago

    So… we are going to police people’s thoughts/actions/speeches now ?

    Be a bit practical here people, Imagine the right-wingers saying “Oh no, he donated to left wingers, reeeeeeeee”

    • Railcar8095@lemm.eeEnglish
      18·
      2 days ago

      Official company announcement, not only personal one.

      Proton has position itself as a service for those who want to avoid big tech spying on them and unfair government prosecution. It is then very charring that they officially support a party that is trying to go out of their way to reduce women/lgbtq rights and invited the whole cabal of big tech as guests of honor to the innaguration.

      If their mission and their messages do not align, it’s normal that customers are concerned.

      I would be concerned of they officially supported any other party, but this case is specially outrageous.

      Be a bit practical here people, Imagine the right-wingers saying “Oh no, he donated to left wingers, reeeeeeeee”

      This might be sarcasm right? They went full reeee with Nike, Gillette, Budweiser, Costco…

      • ZeroOne@lemmy.worldEnglish
        14·
        2 days ago

        They did now, didn’t they, I’m simply gonna wait until Trump in his magnificent stupidity tries sanctioning Proton

        Let’s see Andy come out of that

    • Engywuck@lemm.eeEnglish
      310·
      2 days ago

      Nah… Much better to take the pitchforks out for every little shit one reads in the internet and pretend to be a good guy to accumulate fake internet points.

        • Engywuck@lemm.eeEnglish
          26·
          2 days ago

          Really, the stupidity of some netizens on these daily “scandals” is astounding. It’s like they’re always looking for something/someone to be upset about. People, nobody cares which service/browser/whatever you use, so no need to announce everywhere that you’re leaving. Just leave.

          For instance: https://lemm.ee/post/53975606

          LOL, jusk ask for alternative, man. No need to put a story behind that.