Edit: I’ve gone and done it. This won’t be a common occurrence but I think it is necessary for some users. Hopefully this won’t bite me in the ass lmao. Thanks for helping everyone!

Hey everyone. On privacy I generally recognize a lot of people, most are good. But occasionally I encounter someone who I’ve seen say horrible shit. This is about one:

Mainly they’ve said some incredibly racist shit, including about my race >:(. Of course I’d ban them, but they said all of this outside the community. I feel it’s odd to ban people I don’t like for their behavior outside the community.

I’ve gone pretty lax modding, only banning if you said really shitty stuff only on my community. But I don’t want to build a community filled with these types of people.

I also don’t want the community to have a bad reputation of banning people I don’t like but this guys a known racist.

I’m feeling very conflicted, can anyone help?

PS: the things he said was about Arabs being murderers and rapists. And some racism to Slavs too

  • Universal Monk@lemm.eeEnglish
    1·
    3 days ago

    How do people ban people who’ve never visited their community? Tho not OP’s exact situation, I’ve been banned from communities that I have never even posted in.

    And I’d like to repay the favor to the mods who did it, but I don’t see an option on how to do that.

    • fxomt@lemm.eeOPEnglish
      1·
      3 days ago

      I don’t think it’s possible. They must participate before they can be banned

    • fxomt@lemm.eeOPEnglish
      1·
      6 days ago

      That’s what I wanted to do but it seems most have a negative view of this, and obviously if most see a policy they don’t like in a community they’ll just leave.

      To put in perspective this guy said Arabs rape and murder. I myself am an Arab so I am less than happy at that.

        • fxomt@lemm.eeOPEnglish
          2·
          6 days ago

          I mean here. Tbf opinions are mostly mixed and more in general the idea of someone being banned for behavior outside. I tolerate r lot of people in that community but this guy seems too far.

          I also failed to mention what he said and just said he’s racist so I’ll edit it

          • SexUnderSocialism [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
            62·
            6 days ago

            Why should it matter if the thing was said outside of the community? If they’re a racist, there’s a big chance they’ll say something racist in your own community at some point. Wouldn’t you want to protect your users (especially minorities) from such a possibility? What’s the benefit of having a racist shithead in your community? There is no downside to banning them. At some point you have to draw a line in the sand, or else bad actors will take advantage of this.

            • fxomt@lemm.eeOPEnglish
              2·
              6 days ago

              You’re probably right. I think I’m just going to ban him.

  • Kichae@lemmy.caEnglish
    81·
    6 days ago

    I feel it’s odd to ban people I don’t like for their behavior outside the community.

    If you’re polite in my house, but I hear you’re talking shit behind my back, you’re not welcome in my house anymore.

  • Carrolade@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2·
    6 days ago

    Whatever you decide, I wouldn’t stress about it too much.

    Part of the advantage of the Fediverse is that it does not have or benefit from any one moderation policy, but has many different moderation policies that can appeal to many different types of people.

    Regarding this individual case, I would make sure you look at the context and spirit of that users actions. On one extreme, they could be throwing abuse at fellow users and being intentionally destructive in an unsuitable place.

    On the other extreme, they could be participating in a shitpost community and speaking more sarcastically, just going for shock value.

    There’s a whole range between these two extremes. Where you end up drawing the line is entirely up to you and what sort of instance you want to run.

    • fxomt@lemm.eeOPEnglish
      2·
      5 days ago

      the guy has a huge modlog. heres the comment i was talking about (theres much more but im too tired to paste) he’s also said this about russians (not russia mind you, citizens):

      what genocide? arabs attack, rape, and murder, then esconce the terrorists directly in and between civilian populations for the sole reason so that when israel responds the body count can be escalated and used as public relations. genocide. shame on you.

  • Universal Monk@lemm.eeEnglish
    22·
    6 days ago

    I’m just glad that there is finally a banning question that’s not about me!! :)

    I personally think it’s bad form to ban someone from your community for things said outside the community.

    • fxomt@lemm.eeOPEnglish
      2·
      5 days ago

      Personally I’m not too fond of people saying my entire race only rapes and kills. The decision has been made now