• thezeesystem@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Having no choice people think we can just jump ship (or I guess the pot) when they don’t realize the people who can’t do it at all because there chained to it

        For instance trans people can’t get passports or renew them meaning they have absolutely no way to leave.

        We need to stay and help the disenfranchised instead of jumping ship

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    Its such a shit situation. If you want out, you generally need to get a job in another country. A job in a different country generally pays significantly less than the cost of living in most of the USA, so you need to already have a significant amount of money already saved to even consider it an option.

    Most of us are just fucking trapped.

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      And in the case of the EU you probably aren’t getting in unless you’re highly credentialed. For all their shit talking they sure hate large-scale immigration.

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    This isn’t the first empire. Masses can be brainwashed. You can even have multiple layers of brainwashing, like how Republicans are extremely brainwashed, and Democrats are secondarily brainwashed to think they’re the moral opposition, while both of them unquestioningly support the undercurrent of global imperialism.

    Literally the only escape is the entire population being fully educated on the nature of politics, economics, societies, history. A people cannot realize a free and just society without completely understanding what that requires. Until then you’re all just a fish flopping around on the floor of a boat.

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    As an American who just emigrated, I guess I jumped. I can still vote from overseas, but I’m pessimistic about the future.

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        Japan. I had an offer from an EU country that logically would have been a better choice. But I couldn’t resist my inner child/weeb.

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          Do they ever harass you for leaving the designated tourist areas?

          Not bait I’m legitimately curious.

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            I don’t think I’ve known of a “designated tourist area” in Japan. I lived there for a month in some town that I doubt there’d be any foreign tourist and nobody harassed me and my friends. We were even helped by the locals and police when one of my friends lost their wallet, and they were super patient about it too.

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            No, I’ve never experienced anything like that. Even in small towns. I’m sure it happens, but I don’t think it’s common as long as you’re respectful.

            The worse thing I’ve personally seen were no foreigner signs on bars during new years eve.

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              I’ve read (in Japanese, written by Japanese people) that those places will actually welcome you in if speak Japanese and is respectful of the place and other patrons, the latter 2 conditions just like any respectable human should. It could be that they’ve put those up due to xenophobia, but there are also those that just don’t want to deal with people who don’t respect their culture.

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    This would imply that they’re not surrounded by other pots filled with water which is (varying degrees of) boiling. We don’t really have a Socialist Utopia meeting spot, let’s say.

    Beyond that, eloping requires a not insignificant amount of money (as a Romanian, I can say that homes/apartments aren’t cheap here, either, and we’re not exactly L.A.)

    And at the other end of the line, immigration’s not exactly thought of with fondness, even in Europe. Don’t forget, we’re stewing in our own pot even if the heat’s still relatively tolerable.

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      This is a problem I’m having now with my boyfriend. I want to get out of the US and he says, “Where? Everywhere’s falling to fascism right now. And it’s hard and expensive to emigrate.” It doesn’t help that he also thinks it’s not worth it to think about leaving until the water’s actually boiling and he has verified it.

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        Your boyfriend is right. Unless one of you has an in-demand technical degree or a lot of money, immigration to Western countries is going to be out of reach. That leaves you with weakened economies which are either already authoritarian, or trending authoritarian. Even if you could get to a place like Europe, far-right parties emboldened by their new U.S. support are rising in popularity and receiving centrist support in places like France and Germany.

        There is no green field to relax in while the rest of the world collapses. You’ll have to fight to prevent the slide to fascism wherever you go.

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          True - it’s the rising tide right now and probably for humanity’s future since we’re on a sinking ship globally. I do have the benefit of working for a global company and a boss who’s already told me I can transfer to whichever country I pick that they operate in. But he’s not as optimistic for his own job needs, and it’s still about choosing a country that could possibly just let us die in peace before it also goes to shit.

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        Yeah most people were like “I’m moving to Canada!” Ignoring the fact that the person most likely to be PM in a couple months is also fully a Musk shill. Europe is pushing right-wing and the UK’s been down bad for a while. Maybe Australia or New Zealand?

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          The Scandanavian countries currently look the safest to me. I think Iceland would be nearly ideal, in a lot of ways. but I worry that they may be annexed by one of the larger powers as things get uglier.

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            Yes I was gonna say Scandinavian countries too but I have heard of a lot of institutional and general racism there (although where isn’t there that right now…). Probably still a top choice though when it comes to run of the mill racism vs full on Nazis I guess.