Debunk from dev Pierre-Loup Griffais ‪@plagman.bsky.social‬

“we’ve done pre-release Mesa Vulkan work on every AMD architecture since Vega thanks to them kindly providing hardware, so there’s nothing meaningful to read into there.”

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  • krimson@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    This rumor has been going around for a few months now, mostly because of some commits targeting new unknown hardware to SteamOS afaik.

    I hope the rumor is true, I love my steamdeck but something a bit more powerful that allows me to play Steam games in 4k on my TV would be awesome. If they run the same exact OS as on the steamdeck you could even do stuff like ad-free youtube using Firefox.

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      but something a bit more powerful that allows me to play Steam games in 4k on my TV would be awesome.

      I got news for you! You can literally build a computer to do this right now, no need to wait for steam.

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        I know that. I want something ready to go with a dedicated controller and not fiddle around with components myself that may run too hot or are too noisy etc.

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        Do you want some eggs? I got news for you! You can literally build a chicken shed right now, no need to wait for farmers.

        Seriously, the same captain obvious answer all the time when a Steam console is mentioned. It’s infuriating. Consoles exist for a reason, to provide a ready and verified environment for playing games without any fiddling.

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      5 days ago

      There’s also been some arm SoC work by valve, could be they’re gearing up for a new SteamStation, could be that they’re opening up SteamOS for 3rd party manufacturers like Lenovo. Only time will tell.

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      5 days ago

      I know this isn’t exactly what you mean, but I use the Remote Play function to stream games from my PC to my living room TV, it works like a charm!

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        Yup I’ve been doing that as well using nvidia shield but it has become very unstable as of late. Network latency and input lag is also an issue in some games unfortunately.

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          Ah that’s unfortunate.

          To clarify I use my Steam Deck in a third party dock with a LAN-port connected to my TV. I’ve had no issues at all and streamed FF7 Rebirth with 2k resolution and stable 120fps yesterday, no interruptions.

        • mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works
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          Are you using Steam’s integrated streaming, or Moonlight/Sunshine? The latter has less lag and can handle higher resolutions, but is a pain to set up

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      Ya know what’s crazy? I got a Steam link when it became available and it barely worked because my computer and router sucked more than I realized at the time. Then last year someone made a video about it and said how awesome it was and I remembered I had it and plugged it in.

      They were right! It still works great, and since I’ve upgraded everything since then, I now know my computer was the bottleneck back then. I’m curious what new features a new Steam link could add to make it worth a whole new device at this point.

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    Instant pre-order for me. Steamdeck has been by far my favorite gaming console but TV performance is only good for low requirement games and I’d love the same experience for proper 4k gaming even if it’s medium fidelity.

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    I think I’m part of steam machine’s target market. Games are leisure time. I don’t want to be worrying about processor-graphics cards combos. I don’t want to worry about which game runs, or optimising settings. I want to turn it on and have fun.

    Sadly, I’ve been in emulating recently just to get away from micro transactions so I have to spend a lot of time tinkering. First mini pc that flawlessly runs 360/PS3 and is less than £500 I’m getting it.

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      You’ll have a long way to go on the software side before worrying about hardware

      Like you said though, just buy a prebuilt and you’re already there

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        Like you said though, just buy a prebuilt and you’re already there

        As long as Microsoft doesn’t push an update that fucks up your machine, or you don’t boot for a few weeks and have to wait 2 hours for an update…

        Even the biggest Steam update takes a fraction of the time of a ‘routine’ Windows update. SteamOS/DeckOS is a huge quality of life upgrade over a desktop.

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          Linux is the key there.

          All your complaints revolve around Windows.

          That being said, if you don’t want to fuck with computers any more than necessary, that route won’t be particularly pleasing until Valve can release their OS and Launcher updates, assuming they keep things user friendly.

          Linux gaming is leagues better than it was 20 years ago. Still hard to beat a fresh Windows install (key: fresh) and most certainly a console when it comes to ease of use.

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            I’m a Debian guy but most of the people I know are stuck in the Windows ecosystem because it’s the only one most people know.

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        I know. The SER 8 is damn close hardware wise, it could be in budget given a sale/voucher/what not. RetroGameCorps - mini pc spreadsheet

        I can start at ps1 to give emulators time to catch up.

      • UncharismaticSatyr@lemmynsfw.com
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        Xbone was my last console purchase and I considered it terrible value for money. AAA games aren’t generally worth looking at due to their monetisation strategies. Console wars are anti-consumer. Indy titles, what I mostly play don’t have the same availability. Steam workshop has no equivalent on console. Multilayer is a paid addition, not that multiplayer is worth it because the multiplayer games have the worst monetisation strategies. I could go on.

        But you’re right, that’s what I want, a Steam Machine.

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        I have a console and still play most games on the steamdeck. A lot is portability, but other times it’s what games are on PC vs Consoles.

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    This could be nice for folks that want a console-like living room experience that “just works”.

    Me? I built a Linux HTPC a dozen years ago and have periodically updated the graphics card (it gets the hand-me-downs from my main gaming PC) so I don’t need this. I’m far more interested in a Steam Controller 2 😄

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      Ugh, tell me about it!!!
      Those SC2 leaks happened a while ago but we’ve still to hear anything official about it at all, sure hope they haven’t scrapped it…

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    I’m not the target for such device, I play on my PC and on the Deck when on the couch. But I wish the rumor is true, it will boost PC gaming as a whole

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      What would make me happy is a way smoother experience with game streaming. With moonlight/sunshine I’ve found it works incredibly well - when it does. I always ran into issues with resolution setting, windows lock screen, power on power off etc. I mean, I’m sure I could figure it out over time but I’m way to lazy, I don’t have time to tinker with that. I just want it to work.

      If I could sit on my couch and have a cool and quiet steam deck streaming off my PC in the other room, that would be sweet.

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      Playing games in 4k on your TV with surround sound is superior to playing on a steam deck

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        Agree, but when I playing like that i prefer on my PC, on the couch I prefer to play more chill games while my partner watches her favorites shows on the TV, that was kinda the reason for me to get the Deck in the first place.

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      Having a popular, standardized pc with fixed hardware and OS would enable game developers to aim that as minimum(or recommended) requirement and to optimize their games for that. And since it will be running linux, this means that gaming in linux would become even more mainstream and better supported too.

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        Kinda, but not quite. The main difference, imo, is that consoles have several anti-tampering measures in place, often as exclusive hardware, to ensure owners don’t jailbreak. The PC is, by design, open and “unsafe”, without measures to stop owners from doing whatever.

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        Think of them like laptops, they have a lot of components that make them a pc but arent really able to be modified or changed

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      When the first Steam Machines were announced years ago, I assumed they’d all be running the same hardware like consoles do, and I thought that was actually quite a good idea because it could give game devs a sort of “baseline” set of hardware to aim for, as opposed to the sort of “vaguely make it run on Windows” system we seem to have currently. So if the new ones are all more-or-less the same kit like the Steam Decks are, and they take off well enough, it could be handy in that way I guess.

      Plus it’ll presumably run SteamOS so more Linux exposure which I always appreciate.

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      Optimization profiles for games to target the specific hardware. It would be for people that want a steam deck like device that isn’t portable. Which would probably sell more units than a steam deck now. If priced right I would put it in my living room. It just needs to have the QOL that comes with console for couch gaming.