I dare to say most Linux users know more about windows problem solving than the average windows user
That’s only true for a time. After you stop dealing with Windows for enough years, you just forget the bullshit and you become almost as clueless as the guy asking for help. You’re really good at Linux though. So when they ask for help you are all like:
But with a less annoying and more kidnapper vibe where you’re withholding your valuable help till the bastard pays ransom. “You want help? Switch to Linux.” You don’t care if they don’t.
Yep. Haven’t used windows besides poking at other people’s machines and trying to figure out wtf is going on in about 20 years.
I’m just as clueless as you bud, but I’ve got a bootable Linux drive I can plug in. Come on, you know you wanna… It’ll be great, you’ll love it. It’s free
Maybe for some, but even if you have to keep it up because your work it relatives demand it, Windows ecosystem is essentially impossible to debug when it hits issues and you just have to take guesses as to why the obscure bad behavior is happening.
Windows is better at not needing to be fixed or the first place by self healing, whereas with Linux distributions you have to know how to fix those issues, but once it goes beyond easy to fix issues, Linux is reparable but windows isn’t.
If it isn’t blatantly obvious, it didn’t fix itself, and SFC didn’t fix it, then they always say reinstall…
Just knowing how to use Google/ddg/etc to search for a solution to your problem makes you better at troubleshooting than most people. Spending 30 seconds to find a relevant link can make you seem like a genius to a lot of people.
Unless most “relevant” answers point to a Microsoft help forum with shit answers.
I have to use windows for work and I hate this bullshit.
I was going to make a joke saying “What, you don’t appreciate Andre Da Costa telling you to reboot your computer?” but tbh the reason I do remember him is because he often had actual solutions.
Crazy that out of the thousands of Microsoft MVPs, there was exactly one that knew how to make your Windows shit work, and now he’s no longer affiliated with Microsoft either.
You can learn Windows it just takes a little effort. If you spend some time you will end up knowing half the tricks in the book.
I just scroll Lemmy and every time someone mentions a Windows fix, I press the little save button.
Dealing with Microsoft’s bullshit has always been one of the most pursuasive arguments for Linux.
I dare to say most Linux users know more about windows problem solving than the average windows user
Well, your Windows skills are being represented by Bennett, who is no John Matrix, but also
isn’t a standard civilian. And he does have that chain mail vest…that separates him from the normies too.In my experience professional Windows admins tend to be click ops guys. Trying to tell them that they don’t need a GUI is impossible.
They are also the ones who will lock onto legacy ways of doing things. Try telling them that the thing they are trying to do is in the settings app.
Then they’re shit admins, I’m always using Command Prompt and Powershell because the GUI fell short somewhere.
Also
Try telling them that the thing they are trying to do is in the settings app.
There’s a reason for that, the settings app is trash the second you need to do something beyond the basics and doesn’t cover enterprisey things whatsoever
Just this week: The Settings app on my work Windows computer had a completely non-functional search feature. The other thing I was trying to set “Choose what happens when you close the laptop lid”, I have still not been able to find it outside of manually going to Windows 7-era control panel.
Even the average windows gamer doesn’t know shit anymore.
I dare to rebuke that
Just install Linux. Should fix most of their Windows problems.
Funny you say that I saw someone on the bus the other day with a terrible KDE theme.
It looked kind of like Windows 11 but in the worse possible ways. They managed to get the panel to look like Windows 11 but they were using the wrong icons and the wrong Window decorations.
This is why I always bounce around between all 3 major OS’s (Yes yes, I know Linux distros complicate thongs)
Keeps me flexible, an OS is a tool and you need to use the best tool for the job at hand
I used to bounce between them for the same reason, but nowadays the right tool, for me, is always a Debian variant, anyway. (or Arch, counting SteamDeck).
- My gaming is on SteamDeck now.
- My Office bullshit works fine on Android, and Linux. There’s always been a community for this. There’s a learning curve to get professional results, but it’s so much less hassle once mastered.
- Remote management is so much nicer with Linux. I still deal with some of that crap on Windows, and the Windows admins go on about how they need Windows to be able to remotely manage. I bite my tongue, but I feel embarrassed for them every time they do so. Remote management is about 20 years more mature on Linux than on Windows.
- Artistic stuff, interestingly, also Linux, for me. (I never got into Adobe suite, I felt wary of their monopoly early.) But GnuIMP and Krita get the job done, for me.
Edit: And I can still collaborate. Office cloud tools work on Linux in the browser, nowadays.
Yea for personal professionals it’s fine, but my career is in IT, so staying flexible is important for multiple fronts lol I’m just as comfortable in a Linux heavy position as I am in a Windows or MacOS and being able to do all 3 makes mixed environments a hell of a lot easier.
Remote management is so much nicer with Linux. I still deal with some of that crap on Windows, and the Windows admins go on about how they need Windows to be able to remotely manage. I bite my tongue, but I feel embarrassed for them every time they do so. Remote management is about 20 years more mature on Linux than on Windows.
For terminal stuffs, for Remote Desktop, all the Linux solutions are…not that great, they work. Microsoft’s RDP otoh is fantastic, high quality, low latency and easy to pass through USB devices, Webcams, mics etc. right out of the box
Not sure what your Windows guys mean by needing Windows to remotely manage Windows, there’s plenty of cross platform RDP clients. The only time I’ve needed Windows to manage Windows is for very enterprisey Windows-specific things, like Active Directory or group policies
so staying flexible is important for multiple front
Yeah. I do work to stay current in the big 3, for the same reason. That used to mean alternating my home setup as well, but now I only do it on my employers dime. I think the reason is mix of my having less patience for proprietary interoperability issues at home, and of Linux just being able to do everything I care about.
for Remote Desktop, all the Linux solutions are…not that great, they work
Agreed. I recently bought a nice little portable monitor for home, for exactly this reason. If Linux RDP was a better experience, I might not have bothered. That said, I even do my grandparent’s remote IT support from my Debian machine now, regardless of whether they’re on Windows or Mac. So I’m pretty satisfied with it where I absolutely need RDP.
Not sure what your Windows guys mean by needing Windows to remotely manage Windows,
Yeah. Many of them are point and clickers. Some of us are mentoring them on expanded tooling available. Their interest varies, which is fair. I don’t want their job, anyway, so it’s not my problem how efficiently or inefficiently they do it.
I bet that if you stepped away from the computer while removing said thongs they wouldn’t seem so complicated.
I know, right? Gotta take the hands off the keyboard or at least take your eyes off the monitor for a second if you use your teeth.
Don’t tell me what to do, you’re not my Dad!
an OS is a tool
I’ve been supporting Mac, Windows and Linux for years. I find I can only truly keep up with two at a time, so every couple of years I switch windows -> OSX.
I remember the first time I got to work on a Mac (for fun). I was about 9 years old and I just wanted to learn. I seen an option for a ram disk and made it fail to boot.
Luckily my aunt had System 7.5 for Dummies. She was so mad at me.
I had a Quadra not long after that and I loved it.
I kind of skipped the time in between the Apple TV and the first Mac minis :)
I sold a few quadras, They were really advanced for their time.
I was still using my Quadra in 2002. I didn’t stop using it until 68k software stopped being made.
It’s crazy but I remember it being a 640. Those apparently don’t exist so it must have been a 630 or a 650.
It was not a tower, it sat flat so it couldn’t have been the 640av.
This is driving me nuts lol.
Whenever I get a tech question its always about how to navigate a gui I am unfamiliar with. And when I can’t give them an answer, they assume I’m actually clueless about technology.
sfc /scannow
chkdsk /f
windows is very complicated and inconsistent if you get to look under the hood
Do clean install
“Where are my apps?”
what the fuck is an app?
What is is?
It depends. I’m Carl Weathers with XP.
Why is everyone poking fun at Vernon Wells? Because he’s intentionally being goofy for the picture?
Leave discount Freddie Mercury alone!
Why is everyone poking fun at Vernon Wells?
because he didn’t win 7 Mr. Olympia titles - that’s why!
He holds the distinction of fighting in the most comically lopsided boss fights ever filmed. Arnold circa 1984 vs my neighbor Larry who always lets me borrow his ladder and smokes a mean brisket while drinking 12 beers.
